Serenwilde Power

by Shiri

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Shiri2004-11-25 19:27:47
Okay...I've been asking around for a few months now, just to make sure of this, but I can't seem to find anything similar, so I'll post it here. The thing is, I know Moondancers are broken and all that, but I don't know if that properly explains the lack of power methods we have in Serenwilde.
Pixies and totems are equivalent to souls and supplicants, and we can convert elemental things to moon essence, but what we can't do is convert 1 astral pulse to 10 power from our nexus. Now, I assume this is there for a good reason, because the Communes aren't supposed to be affiliated with the Astral, or what have you, but when you look at the nexi and see Celest on about 70000 and Magnagora at 105000, then us at struggling to keep 40000...it seems a bit off. I assume this will change gradually with the new city reshuffling, but all the same, it narks me slightly that the only alternative power source we have is the thing with the honeycombs (which everyone and their brother pick up and eat or use to convert fae) and flying fae, which as you can imagine is rather unwieldy.
What I am suggesting is, perhaps, some sort of Lunar tree on the ether that anyone can draw power from (unless this would reduce balance somehow), but commune members can link directly to their nexus too. Or something like that, anyway. Any thoughts?
Silvanus2004-11-25 19:38:07
Every month, Magnagora, with all our guards, averages about a 3.8k power gain. Not because of people putting things in, about 3.5k power of that comes straight from our villages.
Neale2004-11-25 20:24:54
QUOTE (Shiri @ Nov 25 2004, 03:27 PM)
What I am suggesting is, perhaps, some sort of Lunar tree on the ether that anyone can draw power from (unless this would reduce balance somehow), but commune members can link directly to their nexus too. Or something like that, anyway. Any thoughts?

It's called totems.
Unknown2004-11-25 20:52:04
How do you only have 40,000 power, has the commune gone insane?! When I left it had that much, and was gaining a steady thousand or so every Lusternian month, and not losing nearly that much, quickly gaining on the other two Nexuses. Have you all gone crazy drawing power?
Unknown2004-11-25 21:49:56
You reach out and touch the Moonhart Mother Tree.
The power of the nexus is at 39021.
Shiri2004-11-25 22:18:20
QUOTE (Neale @ Nov 25 2004, 09:24 PM)
It's called totems.


Yeah, but at the same time, Celestians and Magnagorans are gaining power from supplicants and souls. I was thinking of a direct channeling method like the Nihilists and Celestians can do with astral nodes.
Unknown2004-11-25 23:15:15
QUOTE (Guido Flagg @ Nov 25 2004, 08:52 PM)
How do you only have 40,000 power, has the commune gone insane?! When I left it had that much, and was gaining a steady thousand or so every Lusternian month, and not losing nearly that much, quickly gaining on the other two Nexuses. Have you all gone crazy drawing power?


Everyone can draw power now, so of course everyone does. Regardless of whether they need it and/or use it or not.
Gol2004-11-25 23:50:44
Well... You get totems, which are passive, cities get one passive way.. So equal there? Then villages... and quests. You're quest, pixies, is a hell of alot easier than what cities have, I think. No killing, no two stages, just get a pixie and go back.
Shiri2004-11-25 23:58:23
I'm not sure what you're getting at, Gol, but the pixies are part of the passive thing. Ten pixies makes a nut, and 5 nuts (over a period of time) makes a totem. In the same way, the cities get their supplicants and souls, one initial boost (like the pixies), and then they start producing constant power. The pixie quest may be quicker (sometimes) than the city versions, incidentally, but it's worth a LOT less experience - for lower levels, one Isle of Light run can get practically two levels in one go, if you get like 4 sands.
thakin2004-11-26 00:01:47
QUOTE (Silvanus @ Nov 25 2004, 11:38 AM)
Not because of people putting things in, about 3.5k power of that comes straight from our villages.


One of Serenwilde's problem with villages is we got no spell or skill like Celest and Magnagora do, that can give ego to another person. Like I've seen teams of 4 or 5 giving one person ego while that one person influences, Serenwilde has no skill like that, so we gotta rely on Bromides and Sun totem during the day. I know it's not just this, but I think we might have more of a chance on influencing if we had some kind of skill/spell like that. :ph34r:
Melanchthon2004-11-26 01:03:01
QUOTE (thakin @ Nov 26 2004, 12:01 AM)
One of Serenwilde's problem with villages is we got no spell or skill like Celest and Magnagora do, that can give ego to another person.


It does seem a bit imbalanced, in that respect, though I admit to absolute ignorance where Sun totems are concerned and how they compare to chanting Laetitia to recover ego.
Unknown2004-11-26 01:12:10
As far as I know SPIRITBOND SUN simply draws energy from sunlight and refills our health.
Shiri2004-11-26 01:14:32
QUOTE (Quidgyboo @ Nov 26 2004, 02:12 AM)
As far as I know SPIRITBOND SUN simply draws energy from sunlight and refills our health.


Actually, it refills ego. It's not AWFUL because it's passive so it can be used while randomly influencing, but since it can't be stacked (and only works half the time, to boot) it's not as good as Laetitia by a long shot.
Unknown2004-11-26 01:29:09
QUOTE (Shiri @ Nov 26 2004, 12:14 PM)
Actually, it refills ego. It's not AWFUL because it's passive so it can be used while randomly influencing, but since it can't be stacked (and only works half the time, to boot) it's not as good as Laetitia by a long shot.


Oh woops lol I meant to say ego but I was thinking about Laneths health when I wrote that!
Unknown2004-11-26 01:59:47
You don't need laetitia chanters to influence - just makes it less bromide draining on yourself (use a combo of bromides/laetitia/running)
Merloch2004-11-26 02:14:37
QUOTE (SirVLCIV @ Nov 25 2004, 09:59 PM)
You don't need laetitia chanters to influence - just makes it less bromide draining on yourself (use a combo of bromides/laetitia/running)




If 6 people chant laetitia upon a single individual, does it thus negate the use of bromide for that person?

The reason it's brought up, I believe, is the fact that a single person could then take and influence almost any NPC, no matter how difficult, because of the fact that chanting laetitia would cover the massive drain in ego, on a return 'attack'
Unknown2004-11-26 02:18:22
Yes, but with 6 people casting healing spells one single person could take almost any NPC in normal combat too.
Unknown2004-11-26 02:37:07
In my influencing experience, Sun is similar in effect to a Beauty enchantment. Unfortunately that's just my gut feeling, I haven't conducted any actual measurements.
Unknown2004-11-26 04:03:45
I just mean to say that without Beauty enchantment, I've never had a problem influencing -anything- by myself (outside of village Influence, being only CR3, leaders are resistant)
Unknown2004-11-26 05:30:44
QUOTE (Guido Flagg @ Nov 26 2004, 01:18 PM)
Yes, but with 6 people casting healing spells one single person could take almost any NPC in normal combat too.

What's your point? Serenwilde still can't replenish ego in the way the cities can blink.gif

As for the supplicant quests being 'harder' - hardly. Pixies are much harder to find than supplicants, and while the initial item you need is harder for Celest than Serenwilde, this is offset by the fact that you get massive experience for supplicants, but barely anything for pixies.