Unknown2004-12-04 18:04:02
So would it be considered proper or improper to use a language other then English for Name, prefix, and suffix? I'd prefer to have mine in Gaelic but if it is frowned upon I'll use English.
Unknown2004-12-04 18:05:06
I personally think it's bad, although others might disagree, unless your character can actually explain ICly what language it is and why you use it.
Unknown2004-12-04 18:08:09
I thought it would be an interesting way to express a dialect of a racial language. In my case Elfen.
Shiri2004-12-04 18:20:42
Well, I think Iggy's point there is that the problem arises when people have a Latin title, and call it Elfen, and then a French title, and call it Elfen, and then the strange people who think Lusternia's anime based (yes, they're still here, it's not just Achaea) and have a Japanese title, and call THAT elfen...¬_¬
Unknown2004-12-04 18:21:01
There's a difference between RL languages and languages in game. If it an IC dialect that a lot of influential players of a certain race make up thats one thing but otherwise its gay and stupid far as Im concerned.
This excludes titles of nobility like Marchioness or something like that as well as latin cause well.. you just cant ban a language that english comes from I guess...
This excludes titles of nobility like Marchioness or something like that as well as latin cause well.. you just cant ban a language that english comes from I guess...
Unknown2004-12-04 18:24:47
And yes, uber gay if you use an ooc language and try and call it and ic language. Now if youre an elf and you pull out quenya I dont have a problem with that considering its well... elfen. Now if youre an elf and you pull out drow Imma smack you cause you deserve it. (My exhouse in imperian used it but thats a completely different story. We were wicked lil sidhe and we only used it for titles and warcries until someones stupid butt stole the family.)
Unknown2004-12-04 18:30:01
Why would Latin be an exception?
Unknown2004-12-04 18:32:36
Quenya is derived heavily from Gaelic (especially Welsh Gaelic).
I also note that there is already a significant Celtic influence in the make up of Serenwilde, Ackleberry, and Gloriana.
I also note that there is already a significant Celtic influence in the make up of Serenwilde, Ackleberry, and Gloriana.
Unknown2004-12-04 18:35:33
QUOTE (Cron @ Dec 4 2004, 12:30 PM)
Why would Latin be an exception?
Because of Rituals, probably.
Unknown2004-12-04 19:00:35
I -HIGHLY- doubt anyones gonna go out and learn Gaelic considering that even an online translator doesn't work well. Grammer in Gaelic isn't very simple.
As for latin: banning latins almost like banning english considering more than half the dictionary has latin roots. Besides since nobody but the church and older doctors/lawyers speak it out of just general interest so its not like speaking Spanish in the game. That and its just titles like Mary said, ritual based titling. Other than that I dont care to hear anyone speaking latin or any other language for that matter in the game. *eye Qaletaqa* that goes for you too ya raving lunatic. -tease-
As for latin: banning latins almost like banning english considering more than half the dictionary has latin roots. Besides since nobody but the church and older doctors/lawyers speak it out of just general interest so its not like speaking Spanish in the game. That and its just titles like Mary said, ritual based titling. Other than that I dont care to hear anyone speaking latin or any other language for that matter in the game. *eye Qaletaqa* that goes for you too ya raving lunatic. -tease-
Zolas2004-12-04 20:47:35
Latin doesn't bother me because it's so close to English ('Common' IG). When people whip out French and German, however... it just feels OOC.
Unknown2004-12-04 21:06:14
French isnt, I belive they speak it in Delport.
Hazar2004-12-04 21:11:33
It's called 'Delportois', and there are subtle differences from it an French.
Gol2004-12-04 21:20:07
If a language is brought up by a mob, or ICly, by something the divine put in place, then it's ok. Hence, english, latin, and possibly french (though, accounting for how the delport folks use it) are ok. Other languages are a no-go, because they're OOC. IF a large group of influential players, such as a racial clan, make a language, thats ok, and if that draws on, not copies, an OOC language, then thats ok to. However, if any old persons allowed to slap a language in their title and lable it as their races, it comes across as a pretty poor cover up for using an OOC language.
Unknown2004-12-04 21:20:10
all the same, you could use it as IC justification to use french in your title ("Its a Delportesian title")
Gol2004-12-04 21:22:04
Not if it isn't used by the delport mobs. Hence, you can't just act like all french fits for delportesian - Only the words the mobs use can be safely labled delportesian. Otherwise, your title may unwittingly contradict something.
Silvenae2004-12-04 21:35:39
I would just like to point out, Zolas, that Latin is hardly "so close" to English. Granted some root words are similar, but English is a Germanic language, not a Romance language. Spanish, French, and Italian look very similar to Latin, because they're derived from it (which is also why they look so similiar to each other). But yeah. It bugs the crap out of me when people say Latin is like English. No. I'm sorry. German looks more like English to me than Latin does.
Latin has probably just become 'appropriate' because it looks cool and nobody cares what it really means. :P
Latin has probably just become 'appropriate' because it looks cool and nobody cares what it really means. :P
Hazar2004-12-04 21:39:03
Actually, it falls almost exactly in between Germanic and Romance languages, for two reasons.
The language originated from Anglo-Saxon, a much more heavily Germanic language. But as English itself formed, it was heavily influenced by the cultural centers of the times - which spoke romance languages. Then, to make it even more Latin-influenced, the Normans permeneantly entrenched the language's Latin heritage when they conquered england around 1200. When new words are constructed by linquists these days, latin roots are frequently used.
The language originated from Anglo-Saxon, a much more heavily Germanic language. But as English itself formed, it was heavily influenced by the cultural centers of the times - which spoke romance languages. Then, to make it even more Latin-influenced, the Normans permeneantly entrenched the language's Latin heritage when they conquered england around 1200. When new words are constructed by linquists these days, latin roots are frequently used.
Shiri2004-12-04 21:50:14
Maybe it's just because I studied Latin for a few years, but even at the beginning, it looked a whole lot like English. At least a third of the words, probably more, were vaguely related, and with some prodding I could have guessed. I've never studied German, but having been there several times, and my parents and sister being fluent in it, I've come into contact with it a fair amount, and it's a lot less like English in my experience.
Gol2004-12-04 21:56:43
Latin is strongly related to English. Canines, lupine, feline... latin derived words. Mainly, because when England actually made a leap civilisation wise, was when taken over by Romans. Or something like that.