how about some sort of skill for those with sacraments/necromancy that allows you to transport to the room where somebody died? or maybe the area?

would help those who can ressurect out a bit

Yeah...since it's so easy to remove bodies via lastrites, necromancy, and whatever else, making retrieval easier might counterbalance it too, especially since resurrection is a bit harsh as is. I can even see this going in planar, in fact, so that everyone could use it - find a thinning string of fate or some such.

So that any time I die a random Celestian can come to my corpse and perform last rites so I never get to lich? Yeah, sounds like an awesome idea.

Well, really, how many times have you seen anyone raised after a PK death? Granted, it does happen, but a LOT less than anyone liches. Because like 2/3rds of Magnagorans have a lastrites equivalent anyway. Only better, because you get food out of it, and it works on mobiles. It seems like sacrament resurrection or even sacrifice should be useful against more than just bashing.

I wanted this skill so that I can steal crap that dead people drop.

Yeah, it's annoying when I go to Glomdoring, find nothing there, teleport back to the Megalith, and instantly see, "Dude has been slain by the might of a thorn beast." QUICK THEY'RE COMING BACK *charge* ...darn, someone else got 'em already.

That's just me being greedy though.

Actually Geomancers have the Lastrites equivalent (corpses turned to stone, seen 'em around?). The Necromancy one just lets them eat dead stuff.

Ok, it turns out 3/3rds have the thing I was thinking about - when I said lastrites equivalent, I was talking more about "getting rid of the corpse." I forgot about fossilisation, and the thing is, Ur'guard and Nihilists have it even easier 'cause they get food from it. And they have acquisitio. So if anyone dies, and you manage to sacrament rezz them, it's almost ALWAYS going to be because of a mobile, because if a Mag kills them (and let's face it, they don't generally fight Seren), the body's pretty much doomed. So...yeah, resurrection it does need a bit of a helping hand.

No it doesn't..

Any particular reason you think that, Shiro?

I have used the skill 100 times and it works fine.

No, no, you misunderstand. We're not saying the skill's bugged, per se, or that it doesn't work, but the thing is it's nigh impossible in any kind of PvP situation to get into a situation where it's possible to give the skill a CHANCE to work. Whenever I've seen you rezz, it's because someone died to a starsucker or what have you. If you were fighting Magnagorans, by the time you were able to actually rezz (and not have it be a waste of time, because frankly if you do it in midcombat they're coming back on 1 hp and dying 0.3 seconds later) the body would have been eaten for sure, and POSSIBLY fossilised depending on how confident the geomancer is. (Which probably isn't much right now, granted, but the point about eating stands.)

why? so people can teleport into enemy controlled lands or agressive monsters and be killed... or is it so you can loot what they drop??

Solution! Can only be used on people who've allied you. Tadaaa.

People can still use it to steal from other people...

...who've allied you...(granted, there is lust, but if you're close enough to throw one of those and them have them die before they get it cured, you're close enough to kill them yourself)

You are now an ally of Shiri


Shiri has been slain by the might of a bug in the bug plane..

oooh Shiri dropped 10k.... *grabs ten k and runs off* see?

A ) I wouldn't ally you. And if I did it would be because I could trust you to be an ally and not steal crud off me at any opportunity.
B ) Why the heck would I carry around 10k in my inventory anyway?
C ) I'm thinking this wouldn't work transplanar anyway, not that it makes a whole lot of difference in the end, I suppose.
D ) Then you could resurrect me, which is the complete point of coming to me in the first place. 'cause you wouldn't KNOW I'd dropped the gold unless you were with me anyway, which defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

Rezzes should not be cheap and easy, in my opinion. What point is it to kill someone, if they're just going to get rezzed right away? It's almost ludicrous in Achaea, where dying is next to meaningless because I can be rezzed almost instantly by telling someone to ask for a grove rezz on ct. I'd like to see a realm where people actually try not to die. It'd be nice to be able to defeat someone without having to kill them (or kill them twice, with vitae or lichdom).

One: I was being sarcastic, I doubt I would come rezz you even if you did die.

Two: I was making a point.

Three: I agree with Sylphas, rezzing shouldn't become easy