I've noticed that every time I summon a demon, it has a different number, the same I'm sure for angels. Thing is, with an 8 second attack rate and messages long enough to isolate necessary trigger text from the demon's look and multiple demon looks already as you rise in skillrank, there's no reason to not let us customize our demon's descriptions for 50 credits.

So, 50 credits and my archdemon would look like something besides 'a hideous archdemon'. At the very least I'd like access to the full gamut of looks I've learned, I always thought the fiends were the coolest, but if I wanted to keep a fiend I'd have to not learn all of nihilism, meh.

I agree. Before I stepped down as envoy for Drago, I suggested this as something Guardians could maybe do...because seriously - everyone loves spiffy angels and demons you can tell apart! Even if you had to trans your two main guildskills, THEN pay extra, I'd do it. I'd love a customizable demon.

Don't see why not. Sadly it would be a bit dodgy if it extended for Moondancers, but interesting demons and angels would be very fun!

I wonder how many different ways you can describe a stag, and I wonder if Munsia's would have utters and black and white spots.

Oh, I didn't even think of that - turtles and taintwyrms too!

The possibilities are endless... endlessly COOL

An endless pain in the ass.

I just remembered that I'm submitting another idea for demons.

Suffice it to say that I will be including the ability to customize descriptions in my report but, with my other idea, I'm going to add that it should be limited to Admin/Champ/GM.

Sorry, but Brona has something else in mind and I happen to like his idea.

I know in Imperian you could customize, but it was at Divine approval and a certain GR. Although there were some Farking STUPID songbirds.

Yeah, but the majority of the bards were morons. Suffice it to say demons and their link with the Nihilists should be getting a complete overhaul in terms of roleplay and how we can summon them.

I'd probably suggest the same idea for the Celestines, but I don't know if they'd appreciate it.

Somewhere in your report, Drago, you should mention how torture is a farking lame skill and should be upped in power cost or nerfed altogether.

*holds his 'BAN TORTURE' sign high*

Sure, at the same time I'll give us a way to render your demense impotent

Torture isn't that hard to reduce damage wise, by the way.

No, all I'm saying is that setting demon to shackles, waiting for it to hit and then insta-torture is LAME.

I guess if they can't get the kill any other way.

Personally, that's just an unimaginative way to kill people, but I doubt it'll get changed, sorry.

The thing is, the second you give people the word 'customize' you get:

Before is a giant demon. He looks angry. He snarls. He bites your head off. Haha you die!

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Also, I don't know how it is with Nihilists, but in the Celestines, the gist (spelling?) of it is that the Supernals send you an Angel that they happen to have on hand.

Hmm, yes. Which is why the gods that customize it are expected to be mature.

Any god that lets someone get a demon that looks like that, or doesn't fit general description rules deserves to get bitchslapped by Estarra.

Would it suffice to allow customizable examine descriptions, but not the others? That way, you would have a completely unique demon/angel whatever from an rp perspective, but it wouldn't change too much of the other dynamics involving demons moving around or standing there.

I think what Jello was suggesting is a 50 credit type thing, same as to customise an artie, so that sort of thing wouldn't happen, Etanru. Which works for me.

I would love that. I remember cool falcons from Achaea. Having a customized wyrm would be worth the credits, perhaps more than 50 even. But I do'nt see it working, because they always seem to be a "different" wyrm, same goes for demons and angels. But I think customizing would work best for angels and demons.

I don't even care about customizing my wyrm, he never sticks around long. In fact, I'd like a skill to perhaps summon him to me? I'm sure he could burrow around underground and find me, and I wouldn't lose him so much.