Dilute

by Ceres

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Ceres2005-02-03 10:29:48
We need this fixed so it doesn't stay in effect outside the arena! I just realised that I've been doing it to all my friends in the mistaken belief that it reset.

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Olan2005-02-03 10:37:50
Funny how much more urgent it is when your friends are the ones being hurt, but if the bug hurts others, you keep using the skill.
Torak2005-02-03 10:52:22
Heh my thoughts exactly Olan...
Daganev2005-02-03 11:06:31
can you create a demense from the air or were you just able to sneak past the guards at the gate?
Thorgal2005-02-03 11:14:23
She can create a demesne from the air.
Geb2005-02-03 14:31:45
Bah! I put this back on my tactics list because I thought it was fixed. Oh well, time to take it back off of the list.


We can flood/force flood and meld from the air. We are unable to actually cast any of the demesne effects from the air, but that is not a big deal if we're just adding rooms to an established demesne.
Amaru2005-02-03 15:29:47
When an immortal says something's fixed, it is to be expected it is fixed. I want damned dilute removed from my censor.gif ing vials, for the second censor.gif ing time.
Gwylifar2005-02-03 15:38:32
Ceres diluted my vials in an FFA (and I had just gotten refills too!) a few days ago. When I came out, the vials were still diluted, but when I poured them out and got them refilled, they were fine.

Two related but separate bugs, one fixed, one not yet fixed. The "dilute is permanent" bug was far worse, but the "dilute lasts outside the arena" bug is still pretty awful.

(During that same FFA, I also mysteriously lost from my pack 7 empty vials that had been made brand new earlier that day from gems given to me by my wife as a wedding present, so all in all, that free FFA cost me about 5000 coins. Finally getting to fight an aquamancer and seeing some of the triggers was good, but not worth *that*.)
Terenas2005-02-03 15:52:21
QUOTE(Ceres @ Feb 3 2005, 10:29 AM)
We need this fixed so it doesn't stay in effect outside the arena! I just realised that I've been doing it to all my friends in the mistaken belief that it reset.

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You got to be kidding me, I've asked you on two separate occasions if you had actually tested dilute in the arena after it was reported to be fixed and you claimed it had.

Could the admins please look into this absurdly rediculous ability already? Why the hell couldn't dilute be a temporary effect instead of permanent at least, this is freaking rediculous. No other ability in the game has such a crippling and long-lasting effect, and for a mere 3 powers. Heck, even if it was 10 powers, that is still insane. And could you guys please fix the dwarven runes using up coals in the arena as well? What's the point of using the arena at all if you're going to end up getting all of your vials diluted, your coals and tints get used up, in addition to 5 gold per level.
Amaru2005-02-03 15:53:35
Hear hear.
Unknown2005-02-03 17:14:36
9 guilds and a skill that is pretty good. So naturaly there will be 8 people to 1 who hate it. Spores is the same way, if you have it, its great if not you want it nerfed. Leave spores alone and leave dilute alone and leave lich alone and every other skill thats an advantage to a guild. Most skills are adverage but I like that fact that each guild has at least one that is better than adverage.

I just hope the gods are looking at this in a balanced way and not listening to the whiners. Every guild has some skills that are above adverage in comparison to other guilds skills. The aquamancers just happen to have gotten the cripple your vials card so deal with it. They have such mediocre skills as is Id hate to see em nerfed. Look at an aquamancer like a skunk....if you kick one your going to get hosed.....only in this case instead of getting covered in stink your vials get sponged.


Terenas2005-02-03 17:25:53
QUOTE(Delver @ Feb 3 2005, 05:14 PM)
9 guilds and a skill that is pretty good.  So naturaly there will be 8 people to 1 who hate it.  Spores is the same way, if you have it, its great if not you want it nerfed. Leave spores alone and leave dilute alone and leave lich alone and every other skill thats an advantage to a guild.  Most skills are adverage but I like that fact that each guild has at least one that is better than adverage.

I just hope the gods are looking at this in a balanced way and not listening to the whiners.  Every guild has some skills that are above adverage in comparison to other guilds skills.  The aquamancers just happen to have gotten the cripple your vials card so deal with it.  They have such mediocre skills as is Id hate to see em nerfed.  Look at an aquamancer like a skunk....if you kick one your going to get hosed.....only in this case instead of getting covered in stink your vials get sponged.
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Either you have not been diluted and spent a ton of gold trying to get your vials replaced, or you don't know what you're talking about. Even the Aquamancers are asking for this ability fixed in case you haven't noticed. The admins claimed to have fix the bug which apparently has not been, so we're whiners because of some 'lame overpowered buggy abilities the admins have claimed to have been fixed is still working'?
Roark2005-02-03 17:54:37
QUOTE(terenas @ Feb 3 2005, 01:25 PM)
Either you have not been diluted and spent a ton of gold trying to get your vials replaced, or you don't know what you're talking about. Even the Aquamancers are asking for this ability fixed in case you haven't noticed. The admins claimed to have fix the bug which apparently has not been, so we're whiners because of some 'lame overpowered buggy abilities the admins have claimed to have been fixed is still working'?
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I do not believe anyone ever claimed this was fixed. Rather, it was claimed that dillute cursing vials permenantly was fixed. That is a completely unrelated issue as this.
Ceres2005-02-03 18:33:33
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Sorry, anyone I diluted in the arena.

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When we tested it with Amaru after Buho said the other fix had been made, it didn't seem to remain diluted

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Terenas2005-02-03 19:33:04
QUOTE(roark @ Feb 3 2005, 05:54 PM)
I do not believe anyone ever claimed this was fixed. Rather, it was claimed that dillute cursing vials permenantly was fixed. That is a completely unrelated issue as this.
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Looking back, I realize that Buho only claimed that once emptied, the vials will function normally again. But myself, and many others it would seem, including the Aquamancers, were under the impression that the ability was fixed entirely as in the vials will reset after the arena. It would had seem logical that the admins could have told us that this bug was still in effect so that the Aquamancers knew not to use it inside the arena. Back when I first started out as an Aquamancer, this bug was known, so I have doubts that the admins weren't aware of it as well, that is why the Aquamancers were not using it until Buho claimed that it was fixed.