Narsrim2005-02-10 20:31:00
I would like to formally state how lichdom is used to bypass the willpower drain for ghosting. Many, many times... I have seen Daevos and others ghost and explore for a long period of time, return to a safe location, heartstop, arise as a lich and thus will full willpower to repeat. The arena is also abused for full willpower regen in this case. I certainly feel this is unfair and overpowered. What is the point of the willpower drain if 400 gold or 10p can dissolve it?
Daganev2005-02-10 20:36:02
You make that sound so easy.
its not 10p. its closer to 20p and maybe 30 seconds, of sitting there defenseless.
I think more people die from ghost than find a use for it.
its not 10p. its closer to 20p and maybe 30 seconds, of sitting there defenseless.
I think more people die from ghost than find a use for it.
Narsrim2005-02-10 20:36:33
QUOTE(daganev @ Feb 10 2005, 04:36 PM)
You make that sound so easy.
its not 10p. its 10p and maybe 30 seconds, of sitting there defenseless.
I think more people die from ghost than find a use for it.
its not 10p. its 10p and maybe 30 seconds, of sitting there defenseless.
I think more people die from ghost than find a use for it.
46500
Oh no... versus 20 minutes of meditating... I think that's easy. And yet again, your utter lack of combat knowledge shines through. Ghost is used at least 10 times a day against me to escape and get away. Furthermore, it is used to by passed statues and totems to bash guards (see my thread on Ur'guard with regards to bashing)
Bricriu2005-02-10 20:36:56
Narsrim, you above anyone should know that all skills have pros and cons.
Lichdom actually takes 20 power to use, not 10. You have to use 10 to get it....then another 10 are gone when you become the lich. Granted, you can do the exact same thing with vitae (though instead of having negative stats during the day as a penalty, you lose a little experience).
What is wrong? Did someone piss in your spore circle or something, stopping you from vitae/spore escape?
Lichdom actually takes 20 power to use, not 10. You have to use 10 to get it....then another 10 are gone when you become the lich. Granted, you can do the exact same thing with vitae (though instead of having negative stats during the day as a penalty, you lose a little experience).
What is wrong? Did someone piss in your spore circle or something, stopping you from vitae/spore escape?
Narsrim2005-02-10 20:38:33
QUOTE(Bricriu @ Feb 10 2005, 04:36 PM)
Narsrim, you above anyone should know that all skills have pros and cons.
Lichdom actually takes 20 power to use, not 10. You have to use 10 to get it....then another 10 are gone when you become the lich. Granted, you can do the exact same thing with vitae (though instead of having negative stats during the day as a penalty, you lose a little experience).Â
What is wrong? Did someone piss in your spore circle or something, stopping you from vitae/spore escape?Â
Lichdom actually takes 20 power to use, not 10. You have to use 10 to get it....then another 10 are gone when you become the lich. Granted, you can do the exact same thing with vitae (though instead of having negative stats during the day as a penalty, you lose a little experience).Â
What is wrong? Did someone piss in your spore circle or something, stopping you from vitae/spore escape?Â
46502
As I stated in that thread, it is obvious that incessant bitching defines what is and is not overbalanced so I plan to do just that.
Daganev2005-02-10 20:39:25
ahh, goody.
Maturity strikes again!
Maturity strikes again!
Narsrim2005-02-10 20:40:12
QUOTE(daganev @ Feb 10 2005, 04:39 PM)
ahh, goody.
Maturity strikes again!
Maturity strikes again!
46506
I fight fire with fire. It seems to work.
Daganev2005-02-10 20:46:12
Your not even bringing up valid points.
There is a large difference between people complaining for the sake of it, and people complaining because there is something wrong that needs to be complained about.
There is a large difference between people complaining for the sake of it, and people complaining because there is something wrong that needs to be complained about.
Bricriu2005-02-10 20:50:23
Seeing as how Narsim obviously states he is only complaining for the sake of complaining, Could this thread either be A. - Locked, or B. - Moved to rants?
Ceres2005-02-10 20:51:48
darkchant lichdom;heartstop
10 power.
10 power.
Narsrim2005-02-10 20:53:49
QUOTE(Bricriu @ Feb 10 2005, 04:50 PM)
Seeing as how Narsim obviously states he is only complaining for the sake of complaining, Could this thread either be A. - Locked, or B. - Moved to rants?
46518
I'm point out that there are several classes with unbalanced skills.
Bricriu2005-02-10 21:02:38
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 03:38 PM)
As I stated in that thread, it is obvious that incessant bitching defines what is and is not overbalanced so I plan to do just that.
46504
Nough said. Locked or moved, please?
Revan2005-02-10 21:03:36
Like Moondancers, Narsrim?
Ixion2005-02-10 21:08:20
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 03:36 PM)
Oh no... versus 20 minutes of meditating... I think that's easy. And yet again, your utter lack of combat knowledge shines through. Ghost is used at least 10 times a day against me to escape and get away. Furthermore, it is used to by passed statues and totems to bash guards (see my thread on Ur'guard with regards to bashing)
46501
I think Narsrim is pissed that he wisped the hell out of me into trees and I got away every time. Try web and paralyze Nars.. Also, you need to learn that we can't ghost for very long when we have afflictions, MANY go through ghost. I was being hit with about 5 afflictions the second time you got me into the trees and after I ghosted.. As such, if you just teleport as soon as I native form, you'd prolly have had me.
Narsrim2005-02-10 21:09:04
QUOTE(Bricriu @ Feb 10 2005, 05:02 PM)
Nough said. Locked or moved, please?
46535
I cannot pick and choose what is the acceptable method. I am simply following what has been set forth and what has achieved results. All of the those threads were not moved or locked so be quiet
Narsrim2005-02-10 21:10:07
QUOTE(Ixion @ Feb 10 2005, 05:08 PM)
I think Narsrim is pissed that he wisped the hell out of me into trees and I got away every time. Try web and paralyze Nars.. Also, you need to learn that we can't ghost for very long when we have afflictions, MANY go through ghost. I was being hit with about 5 afflictions the second time you got me into the trees and after I ghosted.. As such, if you just teleport as soon as I native form, you'd prolly have had me.
46545
That has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about circumventing the willpower drain of ghost.
Daganev2005-02-10 21:11:48
Ixion! stop giving away secrets!
And Narsrim, the changes that were made to Lich were do to ingame discussions not on these forums.
If you want to get results you have to Bitch ingame.
And Narsrim, the changes that were made to Lich were do to ingame discussions not on these forums.
If you want to get results you have to Bitch ingame.
Silvanus2005-02-10 21:12:33
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 10 2005, 03:10 PM)
That has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is about circumventing the willpower drain of ghost.
46550
What about you asking me for a spar to call your Fae?
What about Amaru saying he defs up in the arena to avoid the power?
What about Tuek saying he does the same thing?
Narsrim2005-02-10 21:16:08
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Feb 10 2005, 05:12 PM)
What about you asking me for a spar to call your Fae?
What about Amaru saying he defs up in the arena to avoid the power?
What about Tuek saying he does the same thing?
What about Amaru saying he defs up in the arena to avoid the power?
What about Tuek saying he does the same thing?
46558
That can go too... I've already bugged it twice. However, the policy this far has been that it is legit to avoid excessive power cost by deffing up in the arena. Not my call.
Shiri2005-02-10 21:38:19
0_o But it's not legit to avoid a 20 minute waiting time? Far's I'm concerned, they're losing 10 power in exchange for 20 minutes. It could be worse. This is about the LEAST important argument related to ghost.