Dumihru2005-02-11 02:09:51
Thank you, Roark!No more getting pacified when my crone is 10 rooms away and masochisms some poor sod without pipes.
Unknown2005-02-11 03:18:31
I really want to meet this 'Joe, Nihilist of Doom', guy. He sounds cool.
Sekreh2005-02-11 03:55:04
I want to bear his children
Gwylifar2005-02-11 03:59:57
I think he's Trader Bob's cousin.
Elryn2005-02-11 04:48:47
Agreed, its great to see things being visibly improved so quickly. 
for the divine!
for the divine!Drago2005-02-11 05:27:23
Are pidgwidgeons supposed to be affected by this as well?
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
Revan2005-02-11 05:51:27
Does this mean that demesnes will no longer give people vengence? If it does, I love you forever
Revan2005-02-11 05:52:01
What I mean by that is: If someone dies to demesne, yes, give them vengence... if someone is HIT by a demesne, NO VENGENCE EVER
Unknown2005-02-11 05:52:48
QUOTE(Drago @ Feb 11 2005, 04:27 PM)
Are pidgwidgeons supposed to be affected by this as well?
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
47183
If it was stopping you leaving then it was instructed to, I guess.
I'm not sure what your objecting to?
Ialie2005-02-11 06:08:07
All the cool stuff happens while I am at work.
Unknown2005-02-11 06:54:30
QUOTE(Drago @ Feb 10 2005, 07:27 PM)
Are pidgwidgeons supposed to be affected by this as well?
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
47183
Is carcer supposed to be affected by this as well?
Are icewalls supposed to be affected by this as well?
Is fall tarot supposed to be affected by this as well?
No.
Ialie2005-02-11 06:56:07
Can someone copy and paste the announce post for me?
I am at work
*sniffle*
I am at work
*sniffle*
Unknown2005-02-11 07:13:56
Here ya go Ialie.
QUOTE
ANNOUNCE NEWS #198
Date: 2/11/2005 at 1:02
From: Roark Libertas
To : Everyone
Subj: Minions
Some changes to how loyal NPC minions work (fae, angels, etc.):
1) Ordering a minion to kill someone will not be considered aggressive
against the target. Though it counts as an aggressive act, it is not
*against* the target, sort of how like casting a demesne spell is
aggressive but not against anyone in particular.
2) It will be considered an act of aggression by the minion's master if
the minion attacks someone. What this means is that you cannot trigger
the avenger when you order it to kill someone; avenger only gets
triggered if it actually has a chance to hit the target face to face.
What this also means is that it will not fight someone you cannot commit
aggression against, which is the most important part. For example, if
you have PK careful on then your minions will not attack people you are
a suspect of; but if you have PK careful off then it will go through the
avenger just as if you punched the person yourself. (Though everyone has
PK carteful on, right? So that should never happen if you do the right
thing.) They will also not fight other people if you are graced, etc.
3) Attacking someone else's minion will be considered aggressive from
the perspective of the avenger if the target is on-line. If you logoff
with your minions out in the open then sorry, they are fair game for
people to slay. Otherwise, if you are the suspect of Joe, Nihilist of
Doom, and you attack his archdemon then it will give him vengeance.
Note, Avechna will stay your hand if you have PK careful on.
What does this mean? Basically it should plug all the holes with NPCs.
If you are someone's suspect, you cannot attack his minions. If you
order minions to kill a suspect then you will not lose the suspect
status if your minions do not actually see combat. And finally, there
will be no way to make your minions kill those whom you are a suspect of
without triggering the avenger just like any other attack.
Penned by my hand on the 14th of Estar, in the year 110 CE.
Date: 2/11/2005 at 1:02
From: Roark Libertas
To : Everyone
Subj: Minions
Some changes to how loyal NPC minions work (fae, angels, etc.):
1) Ordering a minion to kill someone will not be considered aggressive
against the target. Though it counts as an aggressive act, it is not
*against* the target, sort of how like casting a demesne spell is
aggressive but not against anyone in particular.
2) It will be considered an act of aggression by the minion's master if
the minion attacks someone. What this means is that you cannot trigger
the avenger when you order it to kill someone; avenger only gets
triggered if it actually has a chance to hit the target face to face.
What this also means is that it will not fight someone you cannot commit
aggression against, which is the most important part. For example, if
you have PK careful on then your minions will not attack people you are
a suspect of; but if you have PK careful off then it will go through the
avenger just as if you punched the person yourself. (Though everyone has
PK carteful on, right? So that should never happen if you do the right
thing.) They will also not fight other people if you are graced, etc.
3) Attacking someone else's minion will be considered aggressive from
the perspective of the avenger if the target is on-line. If you logoff
with your minions out in the open then sorry, they are fair game for
people to slay. Otherwise, if you are the suspect of Joe, Nihilist of
Doom, and you attack his archdemon then it will give him vengeance.
Note, Avechna will stay your hand if you have PK careful on.
What does this mean? Basically it should plug all the holes with NPCs.
If you are someone's suspect, you cannot attack his minions. If you
order minions to kill a suspect then you will not lose the suspect
status if your minions do not actually see combat. And finally, there
will be no way to make your minions kill those whom you are a suspect of
without triggering the avenger just like any other attack.
Penned by my hand on the 14th of Estar, in the year 110 CE.
Murphy2005-02-11 07:15:47
I like the new changes, sure if you are in group combat vs another group. Like when im fighting ethelons group. If his carcer stops me or him blocking, well fine because if you fight the group you're fighting a bloody group!
I think stopping their ents from hitting you is certainly enough, because you are killing their allies in front of their nose. If you do that in achaea, that person is allowed to defend.
Just be happy ethelon can't set his handmaiden and angel on you.
I think stopping their ents from hitting you is certainly enough, because you are killing their allies in front of their nose. If you do that in achaea, that person is allowed to defend.
Just be happy ethelon can't set his handmaiden and angel on you.
Unknown2005-02-11 07:16:17
QUOTE(Drago @ Feb 11 2005, 05:27 AM)
Are pidgwidgeons supposed to be affected by this as well?
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
Narsrim's kept stopping me leaving, leading to me dying to.. Staer at the time.
47183
I was wondering why he kept ordering it to follow me.
Narsrim2005-02-11 11:30:11
It is a bit screwy with this new change. Hopefully soon, I won't be able to order my pigwidgeon to follow you with PK CAREFUL on
Roark2005-02-11 15:08:50
QUOTE(Revan @ Feb 11 2005, 01:51 AM)
Does this mean that demesnes will no longer give people vengence? If it does, I love you forever
47208
For quite some time, demesne abilities have ignored people that would get vengeance if you have PK careful on.
