I wonder whether there is any particular reason for this constant raid on seren villages which has been going for about 6 or 7 hours now constantly.

Is this another attempt to split the seren further away from celest? As the mags seem to be particularly focussing on the serenwilde rather than them.

I just hope celest doesn't try and take a piece for themselves too.

Is it just me, or does the word "mags" sound frightfully stupid?

No, Richter, it is not. (Just you.)

Heh, I guess you could see Magnagoran raids as their declaration of independance, and claiming freedom. With Rowena around making refills, I don't think they need to worry much about Serenwilde/alchemists anymore... so why not raid and still get fills?

Of course, this is my assumption by your posts... I'll go read commune logs and see the result of these said raids.

Whoo I know this one! Or at least, I can predict! It will be blamed on retaliation for raids on their villages. Because the miners appeared in Angkrag by magic, the furrikins walk to Acknor by themselves, Yrael never raids Estelbar, and there was no recent war.

Do I win?

Now that they have circumvented the restictions on alchemy I am not at all suprised by the raids.

I would definitely say weeks of constant irritating raids by Narsrim and company could have instigated it somewhat.

I was wondering why only raid Serenwilde controlled villages?

The last time anything big happened, Magnagora did not attack Celest and this time they seem to be focussing on Serenwilde too.

In some ways I think they probably see Serenwilde as the biggest threat as I dont think Celest have been particularly agressive to Magnagora recently..

hmm

I assumed Mag's recent animosity toward Serenwilde was just because they see you as a bigger threat than Celest.

Magnagora could focus on terrorizing Celest again, though... But maybe they want payback for the horrible elixir bans, and in the long run mess with Serenwilde villages...

Edit: Ok, so possible reasons for Magnagoran raids: Payback. Payback for elixir ban. Payback for Serens raiding their villages. Wanting to minimize Seren's control over the villages. What else? Magnagorans feel free to answer.

Because Magnagora wants to spread the Taint through the entire Basin, Serenwilde wants to stop us, well, at least from spreading it to the forest, built it conflict right there. Also added to that Seren raid Magnagoran villages more than Celestians do. Plus why would we want to attack Serenwilde Jr. (Celest), when we can attack the real Serenwilde?

Also it's been shown time and again there's not any real penaltiy to exsessive PK, so you shouldn't really be surprised

So in other words one month of peace is too much and certain people of Magnagora are just bored.

Although many of you do not know this IC (although you will because I am going to release it), I am a member of Lady Terentia's Order which is opposed to the Taint and such. Furthermore, Magnagora readily defiles Her shrines. My motivation for being very anti-taint stems from that not Serenwilde. At times, I am required to act upon one loyalty and when I do, it has nothing to do with another.

A lot of persons are trying to use my actions and say, "Since Narsrim did it, Serenwilde is involved." This is simply not the case. I have no Commune position in Serenwilde and the only position I have in the Moondancers is Security so I can protect guildmates.

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Now with that said, I would like to re-emphasize something I stated. "I have no Commune position in Serenwilde." Because of this fact, I feel I can readily separate by Serenwilde life with my devotion to my Order. Obviously if you are a Commune/City leader (ie. Gregori, Rhysus, Daevos) then such freedom is sacrificed for the position. Daevos's actions are indeed actions that reflect Magnagora... some might argue this is unfair... well then, a certain person shouldn't have assumed leadership if he or she cannot handle what it entails.

Furthermore, does Magnagora not realize that more it pushes on Serenwilde the more it ensures a mutual alliance between Serenwilde and Celest against it? I mean seriously, there is a reason you lost all of your villages... you cannot fight both of us and win.

We lost all our villages? Ahhh, your ego never ceases to make me laugh, Narsrim.

You must wonder whether Serenwilde can really ally with either city, recently. Didn't Celest get Southgard thanks to Magnagora's intervention? Lately it seems like Magnagora has loosen-up with Celest, so Celest really has no real reasons to be hasty into a conflict with Magnagora again.

Psh, but still... Magnagora can simply justify it's raids on Seren's villages due to the need of abducting furrikins and dwarves to take them to their own villages. Still, I think a massive raid like the one logs show... I consider them to be slightly out of hand. Unnecessary use of force.

Narsrim,

like you said, a lot of people do not know your motivations within the game, so why separate your actions from Serenwilde's?

From my character's perspective (citizen of Magnagora obviously) Narsrim was a member of Serenwilde constantly attacking villages, therefore my characters hates Serenwilde...for now.

Anybody who belongs to a city, does an action, and the city does not protest is being supported by the city, no matter what your personal reasons.

Second, to Niara... I havn't seen a month of peace, I have seen a month of Magnagorans being attacked and feeling that because of politics they were not allowed to attack back.

Third, whats the point of beating on Celest? They don't really ever hurt Magnagora, nor have they taken any villages that Magnagora can take, because of the new Influencing rules.

It's funny how most of Serenwilde doesn't realize that raiders from Serenwilde have been spamming the Magnagora city channel for a week or two prettymuch non-stop. And now that Mag can actually strike back, they're like, what have we done to deserve this?

And it is even funnier that for this to happen it always needed a Magnagoran to steal furrikens or dwarven miners, Jello.
Oh, and yes, Daganev, the poor, innocent Magnagorans...uhm, where do you live please? I don't necessarily agree with the constant attacks done by Narsrim or Tuek but please don't try to convince me or anyone else that poor Magnagora just tried or tries to defend itself.