Declare/Defend

by Unknown

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Unknown2005-02-18 02:32:26
Well, first off, Covens need to be fixed, this is an emergency bug, having to declare hostilities on someone before joining them to a Coven.


mooncoven join ibaesha

You change your mind as Avechna whispers in your mind an inquiry on if you wish
first declare aggressions.


Secondly, for the purpose of using defend, allow us more allies. Allow us to ally organizations, allow us to ally clans, allow us to ally cities/guilds.

Make it so for the purpose of defend, that as a Champion/Protector/Security in your guild is considered allied to them.

Make citymates/communemates considered as allies to eachother, and guilds as well.

Thank you.
Unknown2005-02-18 02:35:34
You beat Shiri *gasp*
Unknown2005-02-18 02:41:23
First of all, thanks to all the Divine. This r0xx0rz, totally!!!!!!!1111oneone11!!eleven.

My suggestions, going along with Tuek:

- Allow Guild Champions to DEFEND anyone who is a member of their guild or city, allies or not.

- Allow Guild Protectors and/or Security to DEFEND anyone in their guild, regardness of ally status.
Unknown2005-02-18 02:43:16
QUOTE(Guido Flagg @ Feb 17 2005, 04:41 PM)
First of all, thanks to all the Divine. This r0xx0rz, totally!!!!!!!1111oneone11!!eleven.

My suggestions, going along with Tuek:

- Allow Guild Champions to DEFEND anyone who is a member of their guild or city, allies or not.

- Allow Guild Protectors and/or Security to DEFEND anyone in their guild, regardness of ally status.
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Heh, you basically repeated what I said.
Eldanien2005-02-18 02:44:55
By chance, could it be changed to lust works for DEFEND? As it is, Tarot users have to choose between being able to Empress allies, or defending them. Or some other change, so this is possible?
Roark2005-02-18 02:45:20
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Feb 17 2005, 10:32 PM)
Well, first off, Covens need to be fixed, this is an emergency bug, having to declare hostilities on someone before joining them to a Coven.
mooncoven join ibaesha
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As per the announce post's instructions, Tuek already messaged me that this is a problem and it should be fixed in a few minutes.
Unknown2005-02-18 02:46:23
QUOTE(roark @ Feb 17 2005, 04:45 PM)
As per the announce post's instructions, Tuek already messaged me that this is a problem and it should be fixed in a few minutes.
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I am Tuek. ninja.gif

Heh, I posted before I messaged you. And I love the change, it's great! Just tacked on a little wish list as well.
Sylphas2005-02-18 02:48:09
QUOTE(Eldanien @ Feb 17 2005, 09:44 PM)
By chance, could it be changed to lust works for DEFEND?  As it is, Tarot users have to choose between being able to Empress allies, or defending them.  Or some other change, so this is possible?
53508



You can't empress normal allies, only lusted ones? That seems odd. And the only change I can see that wouldn't open up a ton of loopholes.
Unknown2005-02-18 02:49:33
Did I? I only read the first, say, three lines of your post. Anyway, my version is prettier.
Eldanien2005-02-18 02:52:45
You can empress normal allies, but only from the local area. Lust makes it out-of-area.
Roark2005-02-18 02:56:17
QUOTE(Eldanien @ Feb 17 2005, 10:44 PM)
By chance, could it be changed to lust works for DEFEND?  As it is, Tarot users have to choose between being able to Empress allies, or defending them.  Or some other change, so this is possible?
53508


Damn, I will have to figure that out tomorrow. (It's bedtime for me.) Letting you defend people without their permission opens up a nasty loophole. Since lust is usually not a voluntairy form of getting allied, doing so would cause problems. I'll figure something out soon.
Unknown2005-02-18 02:56:37
By the way...

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Stone prominence.
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outcropping of rock forms a platform above the forest floor. Thick pine trees
surround this area, lush and green. The trunks are covered in ivy and other
creepers, which is also now growing towards the clear area they have not yet
reached. The occasional buzz of an insect and the faint sound of birdsong are
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You see exits leading north, east, southeast, and south.
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declare estarra
You declare your intent to bear arms against Estarra.
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declare roark
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declare lisaera
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declare auseklis
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declare fain
You declare your intent to bear arms against Fain.
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declare raezon
You declare your intent to bear arms against Raezon.
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declare terentia
You declare your intent to bear arms against Terentia.
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declare isune
You declare your intent to bear arms against Isune.
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declare lacostian
You declare your intent to bear arms against Lacostian.
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declare buho
You declare your intent to bear arms against Buho.
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duck
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Silvanus2005-02-18 02:57:17
People can void pentagrams without declaring.

You are not able to dispell illusions on yourself without declaring the person first:
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You change your mind as Avechna whispers in your mind an inquiry on if you wish
first declare aggressions.

Roark2005-02-18 02:57:56
QUOTE(Guido Flagg @ Feb 17 2005, 10:56 PM)
By the way...
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Woo! Now I can zap you without worrying about Avechna!! *waggles his finger menacingly*
Daganev2005-02-18 03:00:17
I would like advice. As I think it will be difficult to quickly defend and declare people. However, I see a BIG problem with automatically declaring someone when you target them.

If someone attacks you, and you go to attack them back in self defence, but accidently auto DECLARE them, what happens? I assume its like DECLAREing them on purpose.

Any suggestions on how to add DECLARE and DEFEND to a simple targeting system?

Will this require me having bashing targets and PVP targets?

Thank you.
Unknown2005-02-18 03:03:02
Here is how you do it. Don't set the declare thing for when you target, instead, set it to declare whoever you have as a target, whenever you receive the message of Avechna whispering to you to declare them before you attack.

That's a rough way to do it. I'll probably polish it up real nicely.
Daganev2005-02-18 03:04:58
Ahh thats a good idea!

Thank you.


Defending will be the toughest I think, but it looks like murphy is working on that allready.


I just realized this system is going to COMPLETELY Mess up Tae'dae BEARHUGS! ARRRRG
Roark2005-02-18 03:08:39
QUOTE(daganev @ Feb 17 2005, 11:00 PM)
I would like advice.  As I think it will be difficult to quickly defend and declare people.  However, I see a BIG problem with automatically declaring someone when you target them.

If someone attacks you, and you go to attack them back in self defence, but accidently auto DECLARE them, what happens?  I assume its like DECLAREing them on purpose.

Any suggestions on how to add DECLARE and DEFEND to a simple targeting system?

Will this require me having bashing targets and PVP targets?

Thank you.
53547


You do not need to DECLARE when in self defense, so if you get jumped and get into an unexpected fight then you should be OK without declaring. Else if you are doing the jumping then declare before you enter the fray.

For targetting, have two target commands. One sets your target variable and the other throws in a declare command. You really should never need to execute the DECLARE command in response to an unexpected attack. For defending, maybe alias something to defend all your friends at once. You can stack as many as you want.
Unknown2005-02-18 03:09:27
QUOTE(Dyr @ Feb 17 2005, 04:35 PM)
You beat Shiri *gasp*
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Of course I beat him. I'm faster, I just have less to say then Shiri.
*tease Shiri*

Woooo 1000th post! cool.gif
Unknown2005-02-18 03:13:06
What you should do, say if you are involved in group combat, is ally everyone with you on your side, and everyone defend each other, and keep reactivating it as it fades (#GAG will help). Then when you are attacked by others, kill them off as they attack, using normal targetting, then set it up so that if you are ever prevented from attacking someone (Either because they haven't declared you or one of those you are defending) then trigger that message, to declare your target (which should be the one you just tried to attack). Though you may instead to prefer to move on to another target, one that already declared you or an ally, to minimize those who get suspect on you.