Dark Moon

by Narsrim

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Narsrim2005-02-22 04:18:40
Given

Syntax: MOONDANCE DARK
Power: 8 (Moonhart Tree)
Dancing the darkside of the Moon is a serious curse that will afflict a target
with many lunar maladies. Of course, this curse is most effective during a new
moon
.


4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-date
Today is the 6th of Roarkian, 110 years after the Coming of Estarra. The phase
of the moon is that of the New Moon.

In your world it is Tuesday, the 22nd of February, in the year 2005.


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4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-
Singollo moves his feet in a rhythmic dance and raises a palm and blocks you
from his sight. An ominous darkness passes over your face.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-You are:
cursed by the dark moon.
blind.
deaf.
an insomniac.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w xkdb-
The world spins in darkness as the curse of the dark moon hits you.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-You are:
cursed by the dark moon.
blind.
deaf.
demented.
an insomniac.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-
The world spins in darkness as the curse of the dark moon hits you.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-
The world spins in darkness as the curse of the dark moon hits you.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-You are:
cursed by the dark moon.
blind.
deaf.
demented.
unnaturally stupid.
an insomniac.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-
Singollo snickers softly to himself.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-
You are:
cursed by the dark moon.
blind.
deaf.
demented.
unnaturally stupid.
an insomniac.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4460h, 3740m, 3020e, 10p, 17600w exkdb-You are:
blind.
deaf.
demented.
unnaturally stupid.
an insomniac.

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Consider

Heretic costs 3p and can give 4-5 afflictions

Infidel costs 3p and give 4-5 afflictions

Illusionary Phantom costs 0p and can give 5 afflictions, binds, and causes damage (it also lasts for ~70 seconds)

Summary

Does anyone else see a problem here? Dark Moon costs 8p to use and is supposedly more powerful during the New Moon. Given the small amount of afflictions possible, I actually ended up with 2 although there was potential to gain 3-4 during the New Moon. During another normal phase, the average is 2-3 afflictions.

Why is the most power-taking affliction ability (except Ancestral Curse which is a mirror copy in Stag) that is near trans Moon the weakest multi-affliction ability in Lusternia... and what little afflictions it does give can be cured primarily by -1- herb _AND_ can be cured by focus spirit? Based upon the amount of afflictions given by various abilities that take 0-3p, Dark Moon should be hardcore, dealing out 10-12 afflictions (nasty afflictions). This seriously needs some tweaking.

EDIT: Why would anyone ever waste 8p for 2-3 afflictions when other abilities that require power (Toad Curse, Allhex, etc.) are not possible after using this?
Drago2005-02-22 04:44:56
Heretic is bitchy and.. that really does suck.
Geb2005-02-22 05:16:31
Phantoms give unique messages that are easily triggered and cured (unique to each affliction and the binding). Other than that, it is pretty darn nice. The power cost on yours should be lowered down to the 2 to 3 range and the number of afflictions given increased to be inline with the other guardian abilities.

Everyone does have something similar to that. Geomancers have an insta-kill that that only costs 3 power. While Aquamancers have a bubble water floatation device, which costs 8 power to use. I can find some nifty ways to use the bubble, but darn it is so expensive to use.
Narsrim2005-02-22 05:17:58
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 22 2005, 01:16 AM)
Phantoms give unique messages that are easily triggered and cured (unique to each affliction and the binding). Other than that, it is pretty darn nice. The power cost on yours should be lowered down to the 2 to 3 range and the number of afflictions given increased to be inline with the other guardian abilities.

Everyone does have something similar to that. Geomancers have an insta-kill that that only costs 3 power. Aquamancers have a bubble water floatation device, which costs 8 power to use. I can find some nifty ways to use the bubble, but darn it is so expensive to use
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I don't wouldn't the 8p cost so long as it gave ~10-12 afflictions.
Drago2005-02-22 05:32:30
QUOTE(geb @ Feb 22 2005, 04:16 PM)
the number of afflictions given increased to be inline with the other guardian abilities.
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Replace guardian with Celestine. Nihilists don't have any 'instant' multi-affliction giving abilities.

Contagion doesn't count because it gives one affliction at a time and you don't need to diagnose to know what you've got.
Narsrim2005-02-22 05:56:30
QUOTE(Drago @ Feb 22 2005, 01:32 AM)
Replace guardian with Celestine. Nihilists don't have any 'instant' multi-affliction giving abilities.

Contagion doesn't count because it gives one affliction at a time and you don't need to diagnose to know what you've got.
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Well, that's not exactly true. For one message, contagnation gives:

Epilepsy (kombu)
Rigormortis (majoram)
Worms (choleric)
Itch (liniment)
Pox (liniment)
Scabbies (liniment)

Plus, Nihilists get barbed tail and such.
Terenas2005-02-22 05:58:03
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 22 2005, 05:17 AM)
I don't wouldn't the 8p cost so long as it gave ~10-12 afflictions.
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You're forgetting focus spirit. It is -pointless- having an 8 power ability that can be cured by 250 mana. Dark moon is pathetic as everyone has established that, no amount of tweakings will ever make it useful if focus spirit will cure it. Take Reality, which uses 8 powers as well but is room based, hits all enemies, and also can only be taken down by another 8 (or 10) powers ability, critique. Make Dark moon uncureable by focus spirit, give it more than a whole whopping 2 to 3 afflictions, and make it use 2 or 3 powers. It is a -worthless- skill as it is. doh.gif
Narsrim2005-02-22 06:00:20
QUOTE(terenas @ Feb 22 2005, 01:58 AM)
You're forgetting focus spirit. It is -pointless- having an 8 power ability that can be cured by 250 mana. Dark moon is pathetic as everyone has established that, no amount of tweakings will ever make it useful if focus spirit will cure it. Take  Reality, which uses 8 powers as well but is room based, hits all enemies, and also can only be taken down by another 8 (or 10) powers ability, critique. Make Dark moon uncureable by focus spirit, give it more than a whole whopping 2 to 3 afflictions, and make it use 2 or 3 powers. It is a -worthless- skill as it is.  doh.gif
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I think it could be tweaked to be useful. For example,

For 8p, Dark would give blackout + 4 afflictions ALL AT ONCE and then layer on an affliction every couple seconds up to a total of ~10-12 afflictions. Thus, the end part could be cured but the initial part would be relatively useful. Although, I think focus spirit should only cure it like 30% of the time.
Silvanus2005-02-22 06:09:31
Yes, Dark Moon would be useless because of focus spirit, but.. what you don't realize is that, with a (not sure how high, but I'll say trans to avoid arguments) transcendent guild skill, Dark Moon, can be cured with an everyday skilled that is at mythical. Ontop of that, most people would trans Guild skills and Planar before they go that high in discernment.
Terenas2005-02-22 06:17:00
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Feb 22 2005, 06:09 AM)
Yes, Dark Moon would be useless because of focus spirit, but.. what you don't realize is that, with a (not sure how high, but I'll say trans to avoid arguments) transcendent guild skill, Dark Moon, can be cured with an everyday skilled that is at mythical. Ontop of that, most people would trans Guild skills and Planar before they go that high in discernment.
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Focus spirit is at trans discipline, but your point is taken. But I still find it highly absurd that with trans discipline and 250 mana you can eliminate a myth moon ability that used 8 powers.
Silvanus2005-02-22 06:18:51
Its not trans discipline, the giving power thing is trans discipline.

I hate when people use the excuse "to defend against Knights, you should trans resilience" or "trans combat," its the most annoying things ever. Why should I have to trans my 3 guild skills and trans 2 more skills to be able to defend and survive 5 hits against your 3 skills?

My little bitch for the day.
Terenas2005-02-22 06:33:23
QUOTE
You have gained the following abilities in Discipline:
FocusBody          Regain your motor skills.
Clotting            Reduce the level of your bleeding.
Insomnia            Cause yourself to be unable to fall asleep.
Satiation          Enhance the value of what you eat.
Restoration        Healing damaged limbs by force of will.
Metawake            Cause yourself to quickly wake up automatically.
HeartStop          Slay yourself by stopping your heart.
Breathing          Controlling your breathing to avoid asphyxiation.
Selfishness        Become too selfish to throw or give anything away.
FocusMind          Curing mental afflictions by sheer will.
EnergyLink          Drain your energy reserves to another.
FocusSpirit        Focus your mind on cleansing your spirit.
AB DISCIPLINE for more information on an ability.


From Jelani's site. happy.gif
Silvanus2005-02-22 06:34:24
Nevermind then...
Unknown2005-02-22 09:34:58
Wonderful, on a new moon, for a total of 8 power, you gave stupidity and dementia. Perfect example of yet another horribly overpowered Moondancer ability.
Shiri2005-02-22 16:29:02
I used that once. Through a Rage coven. It helped.

...but, uh, I don't think it's ever been used successfully apart from that. :/
Erion2005-02-22 17:07:36
I'm going to be teh n00blar today.



OMFG STEOP COMPLAINA ING YUO HEVA TEH KILINLGN MNOO1111one
Sylphas2005-02-22 17:09:06
OMG U HAV BUILDINS EN SHEILDZ!!!

Edit: Hmmm. Anyone else really bad at purposely misspelling and trying to sound noobish?
Desdemona2005-02-22 17:11:44
blind.
deaf.
demented.
unnaturally stupid.
an insomniac.


Are these all the afflictions that can be given by the skill? I think it is pretty obvious then that thanks to the skill dealing lunar maladies they want to make a lunatic out of someoene. Maybe epilepsy, clumsiness should be added, too.... and why not recklessness?
Sylphas2005-02-22 17:14:19
No, he already had insomnia, blindness, and deafness. And hell, if it gave those, it'd be like deffing up your opponent. I may as well summon my maiden and order it to follow them.
Shiri2005-02-22 17:27:36
Well, no, blindness and deafness aren't defs when you don't have sixth sense. Insomnia though, yeah.