I believe there is a massive bug with learning while divine favoured. Last month, I purchased 200 credits. I convert 180 of them and starting learning. I put a great deal of them into lowmagic to get trans. When the highfavour faded, I'm suddenly at Mythical 0% (very odd for it to be such a nice even number like this) thus ~75 credits away. I asked some people and they told this is a bug they have experienced in the past. One person actually claimed that this can be taken advantage of if you learn while disfavoured.

As it turns out, I recall another odd sign (and I feel stupid for not stopping at that point in time and realizing something was) because when I checked AB LOWMAGIC, I had "transcendent lowmagic" at aproximately mythical but I just kept learning until I could until I could learn no more.

Anyhoo, I was wondering if this could be investigated because I'm almost 110% sure something is wrong.

EDIT 1:

I also learned quite a bit in environment too (into fabled). I just checked it and it is now 0% virtuoso... strange coincidence?

Just for the record, I don't want my credits back. I just want my skills adjusted to where they should be.

Ok, I just did some testing and I've confirmed there is a bug. I asked Lady Terentia if She would True Favour me:

Pre-Favour

Discernment Fabled Intellect

Miakoda, Maiden of the Moonhart tells you, "You appear to be 69% of the way to the next skill level in the skill of Discernment."

Post-Favour

Miakoda, Maiden of the Moonhart tells you, "You appear to be 69% of the way to the next skill level in the skill of Discernment."

Discernment Transcendent Intellect

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As you can see, the percentage of discernment learned did not change. Thus, if I learned up to transcendent lowmagic last month, it should have still been transcendent when the favour ended; however, the favour altered my abilities to be pre-favour and ignored the fact that I invested lessons in said skill... or something like that.

Narsrim, suddenly I can respect you. Getting a True Favour for "experimentation purposes."

I wonder if Raezon would fall for that...

This is a purely cosmetic error which we have known about but have not had time to fix.

This is how it works, when you learn with a favour, it thinks your skillpoints are higher then they really are. So, it's reporting the higher level. Then, when you gain that level, the code goes oh wait they have a favour and tell you the correct level. Basicly it boils down to the code is stupid.

Rest assured you didn't accually lose anything, I had it happen to me before aswell. This is how learning works. Each lesson is worth a certain number of "points." As you learn your points go up, the higher you are, the more points inbetween levels. It's exactly like EXP and levels. It's not like some believe where lessons are worth less at higher levels, it's just like DnD experience. You still gain the same amount, it just takes more to get to those higher levels.

I hope that clears it up for all of you.

What it comes down to is this:
* Looking at skills with commands like AB or SKILLS will show you your skill ranks by adding together your skill points in that skill plus the bonus temporary points that you get from the divine favour. (Each lesson spent gives you a fixed amount of skill points in that skill.)
* Tutors will tell you % to the next level as though you had no divine favour modifying your skill points.

Some other notes... It actually is possible to go over trans with a divine favour. For example, skill points (not skill rank) can improve spells and abilities. Thus a divine favour that takes your skill points above trans, though it grants no new skills, will give a little extra power to skills that are modified by your total skill points.

Suppose that you are not at trans, but a divine favour gets you to trans level. You still will want to learn lessons so that 1) when it wears off you will have all your skill ranks maxed out and don't need to waste time with a tutor again and 2) so that you might be at to the point where your raw skill points plus the temporary divine favour bonus gets you above trans for that little bit of extra power I described above. That is why the tutors tell you what your progress is without taking into account the divine favour's modifications. Though this causes so much confusion for players that it probably should be changed eventually. But since it is a cosmetic bug rather, it gets low on the priority list.

Give us the point numbers? -plead-

So I have a question then, that I hope is allowed to be answered. Certain skills like Resilince and Discipline have these added side affects, and they are most noticeable when you are at Trancendant. For example, decrease power regen time, and decrease focus body time. At 60% mythical, is it a different amount of time than at 50% myth, or do things like that just jump at skill ranks?

I'm still confused. Last month, I learned lowmagic till trans. That is, the tutor told me that I had reached transcendent in the skillrank and thus would teach me no more. While I was learning, I noticed that my AB LOWMAGIC showed that I had trans long before I was unable to learn anymore. So... if the tutor told me that I could learn no more because I had reached transcedent... shouldn't i have had trans when the favour faded?

Skill points range from 0 inept to 60000 trans, though that is relatively meaningless since all that matters is your ratio of points to maximum points, and so the scale is completely arbitrary and code-neutral. The important thing is that it is rare that skill rank modifies your abilities. It is almost always skill points. This holds true in other games as well.

So, technically, you could be trans in a skill, then get disfavoured, but if you have put enough skill points into the skill, you would still have the trans skill?

No. Skill points end at 60000. Divine (dis)favours are not real skill points. They are skill point modifiers.