Not really a bug, so I thought I'd put it here.

I went to check Bob's store, and as he had 498 mana vials, they were the ONLY thing it showed.

Anyone else think this might be a problem for newbies, or for anyone that just wants to browse?

I can see it being a SERIOUS problem for newbies.

If for no other reason than the influx of...

(Newbie) says, "Where can I get a health vial?"
(Guildmate) says, "Have you been to Bob's?"
(Newbie) says, "Ya but he only had mana vials and nothing else."
(Guildmate) says, "Did you try WARES HEALING?"
(Newbie) says, "No, but I tried WARES and mana was the only thing there."
(Guildmate) says, "Yeah, that's because he has so many of them, you have to dig through the back of his shelves to find anything else."
(Newbie) says, "Alright, what else does Bob sell?
(Guildmate) says, "I... don't know, actually. All I can ever see is mana vials."
...
10 minutes later...
...
(Newbie) says, "i need some healing potions where can i get them plz bob doesn't have any?"

etc...

See, this is what REALLY bugs me. Not being able to see what the hell they sell, and having no idea. Perhaps you could do something to list the bins, and then another command to list everything in an individual bin. Really there needs to be more ways to search wares.

This change worries me, especially since I didn't bother to read it fully and don't know how it will affect my store.

However, the aforementioned situation quite frankly sucks.

That's basically it. WARES only displays 200 items.

Do that.

Or that it shows only the first X items in a bin, so you can see all bins and some items rather than all items from bin 1?

The change is the WARES will stop showing you items after it finds 200 items. Filtering with WARES will get you better lists if the shop has too many items. Note, I believe other places limit how many items you can have in the store to 250 items. This arrangement I think is better because it will let you store as much as you want, which you can't do when there's physical a 250 item limit, but still not have the problem encountered when wares lists get so long that they throw time-out errors or at best lag everyone for several seconds. Check the latest announce post for details.

Oh, it got changed? Didn't know that. Early on I couldn't drop more than a certain number of items though I never did count exactly how many there were.

Waiiiiit, you mean there is now no product limit?

*jawdrop*

No limit > new change

I mean, I have a $200k sign I just bought, might as well make use of it!

No limit! *dream*

Ok, so it's a great change for shopkeepers. I still see a problem with Bob and browsers/newbies though.

Maybe at the top of his WARES he could have a bin label that lists all types of items or bins, so shopper can go WARES, then know that he/she can try WARES VIAL, WARES FOOD, WARES CLOTHES to get a full listing. Though even then, WARES VIAL would still only display one product.

Or maybe place a sign or scroll listing what items he normally stocks.
And perhaps an additional little bit on the WARES function in the NEWBIE tutorial?

I didn't think there ever was a limit here... (Bob has been fixed. NPC stockrooms are coded totally different than player stockrooms and don't cause that lag problem if they get everything listed.)

Thanks Roark!

There -are- signs. They just cost 200k.

When it reaches 200 items, there should be a message that tells you that you're not seeing them all. I haven't actually seen a store with 200 items, as I don't do much shopping, so if it already does that, ignore me.

I tried looking at a shop with 200+ items and there was a slight delay before the wares popped up. Just tellin' ya.

There still is a sort of limit, since you cannot drop more than 250 items into any room. Of course there's ways to get around that, which I won't list here, so you can get more than those 247 items into your shop...

So, does this change mean the 250 items limit will be removed aswell so people can just drop things normally?

I too think the wares command should get more options to help with this new limit. As others said, a command to only see an individual bin would be good, also a command that simply lists 1 of every group of items on the list, plus those items sold separately if there's still room left before the list hits 200 entries.

Uhhhh that's so unfair, when i had the inn, it said i could only have 250 items stocked, well then again i was dealing in food, so might be different to that, ohh and good luck to who ever gets control of the Inn now

Hm..there was a limit, 250 I can only assume, and from what I hear there still is - has anyone tried stocking a whole bunch of stuff lately?