Rather than hijack the other topic, and because this is an issue I think is very important.
Oh, and just to pre-empt the moral ground hijacking of "if we allow suicide, why not allow murder?" or whatever else, I'm going to ask, "If we don't allow suicide, what rights DO people have over their own body and lives?"
If someone doesn't own their own life, really, what do they own? If you're going to harm someone by suiciding, then it was the getting into that position that was wrong, not the act of suicide. Someone's life has as much value as they think it has, I feel.

IMO, it takes a very unstable mental condition to suicide. I would think it selfish if the person was leaving loved ones behind, but I feel that if a person is to suicide then they are not alright up there.

If someone is killing themselves because they have harmed others in a way on the scale of murder or rape, out of guilt, then I don't mind.

I do not find Suicide immoral. I'm not saying it is moral, just not immoral. I fully intend to die before I'm 31. I'll do it myself if need be.

Anyway, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Terry Schiavo case? She should be kicking the bucket soon. Although the case just brings back the age old question of Kavorkian. Which was perfectly fine, in my opinion.

Anyway. Suicide out of depression is stupid, and I can understand people trying to stop that. But suicide because of severe illness, etc, I can perfectly understand. I'd rather die now than suffer for a long time just to die, in a hospital bed, in pure agony. It's just so not in my list of things to do.

Yeah I meant to say that too.

What right DO you have to your own life? Did you create yourself? Are you allowed to break the artwork of somebody else just because you don't like it?

You have rights to what you do, and what you build. I would think suicide MIGHT be ok if you have the permision of your parents.

If you mean God I can't argue against belief, but if you mean your parents, they can't tell you what to do with your life. They don't OWN you.

...so you're saying people don't own their own lives, their parents do? So what, your parents should be able to sell you into slavery? It's your life, no one else's.

Stupid it may be, but it's not WRONG. I'm seriously surprised to find as many people as do believe it is, even distribution of 6/6 at time op posting.

Why the hell should my parents have a say in what I do with my life? Just because my dad knocked some stupid prick up and a condom broke doesn't mean he has a god damn say in it. I fail to see why a man's hard on and sexual desires have any bearing as to what decisions I am and am not allowed to make.

Thats why I used analogy of artwork.

Its a common phrase in artclasses tha they say, "Once you finish your work, and put it out there, it is no longer yours."

Your parents built you, just as an artist builds thier art. An Artists can not tell people what to do with that art once it exists, but to destroy it is wrong.

So while your parents don't own you, they did create you.

I think Religion only comes into play when it deals with how you treat dead bodies, but before you die, assuming you accept the idea and concpet of morality, its an ethics issue, not a religious one.

I have a right to my life for that very reason. IT'S MY LIFE. If someone wants to have a damn say in it, they can come sleep in the bed I made. Until then, I'm making my bed, and, gods be damned, I'm going to bloody sleep in it.

Good poll, Shiri.

(That's not sarcastic, right? Just checking.)

Because without that sexual hard on you would not exist. Show some gratittude.

I really don't think that's a good basis for saying anything. If they have enough "right" to your life that you can't get rid of it without their permission, they have enough right to anything else about it.

Gratittude? Please. Why the hell should I feel grateful that some guy is a horny bass 'tard? Because some guy felt like dropping a load in some drunk girl he met at a party in college, I immediately should feel grateful?

Jesus. I wonder what it would be like if my mother was raped. "Be grateful you mom was raped. Now you know some guy totally defiled her against her will, and he had AIDS, and so do you! Be grateful!" I love the right-wing ideology.

No its not, this is something that needs to be talked about....well typed about.

What, are we sculptures now?
Damn, my parents didn't plan how I will look like or what sex I will be in some nighttime debate. It doesn't work that way, you know?
I wasn't "built" and I'm a human being.

Anyone other than Daganev who thinks suicide is immoral want to tell us why? I'm curious. Of the people I've talked to, 99% of the people that think suicide is wrong are coming from a religious perspective rather than a moral one, but I'm sure it's not always like that.

I don't think there really is a non-religious and moral view as to why suicide, while suffering greatly, is a bad thing. I just haven't heard it. I guess Daganev's comes close, although the arguement that my parents made me and thus have a say in whether or not I take my life is bunk, at least in MY opinion.

Although, Dag, put yourself in say Terri's position. The thinking part of your brain is utter mush. There is like, absolutely NO chance of it working. So, you're lying in a bed. For 15 years. If her parents had their way, she'd be there for another 40 or so, until she died of old age. I'm sorry, but that's more than half her life. Would you seriously want to live in a bed, regularly emptying your bladder and bowels all over yourself, unable to do anything but jerk around, breath, and beat your heart, all because these are natural impulses coded into the subconcious?

I just don't understand why someone would want to inflict so much suffering on themselves just because their parents don't want them to. Terri lived her life, and she was happy with it. It had it's ups and downs. Let her die. Come on. She's not going to do anything for another 40 years, except piss all over herself.

And, just to top it off, my government is paying for it, with my tax money. Which would be better spent as packaging tissue.