Those of you there know what I'm talking about. I should have logged it, but didn't. Did anyone present happen to log the convo between Brennan and I? I've been thinking on what was said, and I'm starting to see the link between Viravain and Raven. But I wanna read the convo again, see the hints, etc.

But, if my guess is right, Viravain created Raven, thus the running off crying etc when He's mentioned, and why Crow so yearns to be Raven once more. Not out of love for the old Gloriana, like Night and Rowena seem to be lost in thought over, but out of love for Viravain, and to be Her creation once more.

It'll explain a lot.

And because I thought it was funny when Brennan and I were yelling at each other.

"WE YEARN!!"

"FOR WHAT?!"

"WE YEARN!!"

"FOR WHAT?!"

"WE YEARN!!"

"FOR WHAT?!"

"WE YEARN!!"

"FOR WHAT?!"

I tried to join you, but I forgot I was enemied.

WE YEARN!!

For wa...

*BRENNAN THWAPS RICHTER*

Ow.

Brennan Stormcrow exclaims, "CROW YEARNS!"
Erion exclaims to Brennan Stormcrow, "FOR WHAT?!"
Silvanus looks about himself, rubbing his chin thoughtfully.
Erion says to Brennan Stormcrow, "To become Raven once more? To remember
Raven?"
Erion says to Brennan Stormcrow, "To forget?"
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Weyearnweyearnweyearnweyearnweyearn."
Gwynevere becomes overwhelmed by it all and faints.
The Conflagration, Falasin, Seeker of the Eternal Flame says, "Crow yearns, and
Crow dreams of Raven. Crow does not nessicarily yearn for Raven in anyway. At
least that is how I see it...."
Falasin ponders the situation.
Erion says to Brennan Stormcrow, "ANDYOU'RECONFUSINGTHENILOUTOFME."
Yukari whispers soothing words to Erion.
Erion says to Brennan Stormcrow, "Not to mention, in case anyone missed it,
you're YEARNING. The Nil for?!"

Just a small clip of it. It was great!

Yes yes, but I want the complete log. Or at least the parts involving ancient bond and source.

But, but... I cut that out on purpose!

*cough* And just who suggested that Crow was yearning for Viravain/the ancient source?

I don't have a log but I might have at least a few of the sentences floating in RAM somewhere. When I get home I'll check for you.

Thanks mate. And Erion said a few times, and asked Brennan if Viravain made Raven, but Brennan just went on his "We yearn!" ramble.

Erion- weeeee yeeeeaaaaarn!

hehe you're late erion

Xenthos - FOR WHAT?!!?!

Erion- We dream of Raven! We yearn!

I had a chat with Brennan a couple of months ago after the first room reverted back to the Glomdoring. He did the same stuff, "WE DREAM, WE YEARN"...etc.

I pressed him for about an hour and finally said out of frustration, "Ok, so you yearn for the Gloriana then?"

Reply was basically,

"Crow yearns for that which he can't have.
Not the Gloriana.
Not the past.
He yearns"


I pressed him a bit more and got
"Some old ties can't be broken"

Also chatted with Rowena, but it was mostly insane babble about dancing under the giant Ravenwood as someone already posted. I have an idea as far as the big step in this, but will keep that to myself and city leaders!

just a small snippet of the nearly 2 hour conversation

You say, "Can Lady Viravain restore the entire commune, Brennan?"
You say, "This gets us nowhere Brennan, time is running low as is."
You say, "Is your master alive presently?"
You say, "I lack the ability of my Serenwilde days to check."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "He has no body, but his essence dreams."
You say, "So you will provide me with nothing then?"
You say, "No information or help of any kind?"
Brennan Stormcrow gives you the once-over, eyeing you suspiciously.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "I am always and forever the servant of Crow."
You say, "Then help to defend that which is his Brennan."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "What you foolishly ask is to oppose his desires."
You say, "So Crow wishes the Gloriana restored."
You say, "This disturbs me greatly."
Brennan Stormcrow laughs in a harsh dead croak.
You give a pained sigh.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "And you say I am the one who does not understand."
You say, "You have stated he yearns of the past."
You say, "You speak of Raven."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "You do not hear."
You say, "Forgive me, I am but a dumb doglike entity."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Crow yearns."
You say, "Yes."
You say, "We have established that."
You say, "What does he yearn for is what I am obviously having trouble with."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Ah."
You say, "I have come to beseech you for that knowledge."
You say, "As you are far wiser than me."
You kneel before Brennan Stormcrow, swearing your allegiance to him.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Not for Gloriana."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Not for the past."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "He yearns."
You say, "He yearns for something new?"
You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "I did not say that."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "He yearns."


Note: I have no interest in joining the Glomdoring commune as I enjoy Magnagora, but I also ICly don't want the Gloriana so hence why I involve myself.

Yea, so, that essentially tells me I'm right. "old ties can't be broken". So, we have Viravain, who made Raven. Rowena's my boo, though. Even if she's gone loopy on me.

Yea, see, that was when Brennan was sane. Now, he just screams "WE YEARN" a lot.

It's been suggested by a few of us that this is a downward spiral for both of them, so that it would make sense for them to be guild tutors, and not like dominatrix rulers.

Dunno! We'll see.

Misquoted my ties comment in the first post, had to read my log again. While I was babbling on about the power of the taint...he said.

Brennan Stormcrow exclaims, "WE DREAM!"
You say, "You dream of what?"
Brennan Stormcrow says, "We dream of Raven."
You say, "You wish the Gloriana to be restored?"
Brennan Stormcrow says, "This was once called Gloriana Forest. But then power
visited and Glomdoring was born."
You say, "Look at the power the taint has, it conquered you with ease."
You say, "Your heart once beat without it, and look what it got you?
You say, "Embrace the taint."
Brennan Stormcrow trembles slightly.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "There are ties older than the Taint."

You say, "I do not deny that."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Ancient ties that bind, that cannot be broken."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "And so we dream."
You say, "All ties can be broken, it is simply a matter of finding a way."
You say, "I am discourage by your lack of understanding in this situation."
You say, "Does Crow dream of his former self?"
Brennan Stormcrow says, "Crow yearns."
Brennan Stormcrow says, "For that which he cannot have."
You say, "Crow also yearns to destroy White Hart."
You say, "Or are you giving up on that venture?"
You say, "You can dream of your past days, but they are just that Brennan."
You say, "You must embrace what you are now, and embrace the power you now
control."
You say, "There is power within the taint, and allies as well."
You say, "But we must end these rituals that are changing your forest."
You peer at Brennan Stormcrow unscrupulously.
Brennan Stormcrow says, "We dream and we yearn."
You say, "Very well, you may yearn."
You say, "But you are also part of the taint now."
You say, "And as such, I call upon you as my brother in taint to help me."
You say, "Help me discover how the Gloriana is being restored and help us to
stop it."
You say, "Your master Crow has been harmed by the Serenwilde in the past."
You say, "Do you not care for him?"
Brennan Stormcrow says, "He will not be harmed."

Sorry, I don't have anything from last night anywhere. I could have sworn I saved Brennan's speeches (such as they were). I do remember the phrase that caught my attention was at the end of one string that was something like "weyearnthesourceofusouryearning."

Eriooooooon. They don't yearn for that.

They yearn for.....biscuits.

Talking to Brennan was bad enough, but talking to Rowena was worse.

About an hour of her telling me how she used to dance and sing...and then over and over not answering my questions but telling me more about...dancing and singing.

I had to chain smoke 8 cigarettes after those two.

I keep waiting for this plot to turn, but it hasn't happened yet. Hopefully when they hit the Putrefied Glen the magic will reverse and out springs a new tainted commune *hopes*.