(Glomdoring): You say, "Ok, Moralis, can you please explain the difference
between our idealogies and the Seren's."

(Glomdoring): Moralis says, "We ish different from serenwilde because we follow
ah single unifying forceh Visaeris, we ish difference because unlike dem, those
of us here hash ah common past of oppresion."

(Glomdoring): Evelyne says, "Night and Crow hold different teachings than Moon
and Hart, and as we grow in our abilities, those differences will become clear
to us, though they are not so clear right now, because those teachings are so
new to us."

(Glomdoring): Moralis says, "Weh all here understand what happens when joo
stand for something dat others are against."

(Glomdoring): You say, "Ok so let me try and summarise what I understand you as
having said."

(Glomdoring): Moralis says, "Dish ish unifying, and weeth it we will draw
together and be stronger den others."

(Glomdoring): You say, "In terms of beliefs, we're no different. The only
difference is: A) we follow Crow/Night, and B) we're more cooperative."

(Glomdoring): You say, "Is that correct?"

(Glomdoring): Viravain says, "Glomdoring is more beautiful and glorious than
Serenwilde, than is all the difference you need."

(Glomdoring): Moralis says, "Visaeris joo dismiss dah beliefs as generalities,
but them general differences ish dah most important ones."

(Glomdoring): You say, "My Lady, I was merely wondering if there's any
*ideological* difference between us and the Seren."

(Glomdoring): Viravain says, "What do I care about ideologies? Seems like a
pursuit of effete scholars that hovel in cities."

Things sort of went on to discussing pie after that.

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I understand RP. I understand a big magic twist, but we're past that point.. There comes a time when we deserve a simple straightforward answer from the administration. Is this going to be our commune?

Edit: I AM NOT COMPLAINING. I just want to know if this is what we got or not. Yes or no.

Give it time, idealogies don't just pop up. It takes weeks/months of actually having a working city/commune to form where you stand.

Visaeris: *whine* *whine* Boohoo! Glomdoring has no RP! *whine* Boohoo! Viravain's an insane nitwit! I want a better patron! *whine* *whine* I'm surrounded by idiots! *whine*

The Basin outside of Glomdoring: You see, Visaeris, it works like this - Glomdoring is what YOU and those in it make it. So stop your sobbing and pestering the Admins for help, when you obviously haven't grasped the concept of how this works. We'll dumb it down for you. Adminstrators - they are the mechanics. The players - they are the game. If you can't comprehend this concept, stop playing something beyond your intelligence.

Oh. Have a great day!

Yeah I dig that. I suppose I should include some of the idiotic snugglecrap that is mostly what I'm concerned about. But it seems like Viravain's completely unconcerned with having any idealogy, other than "notSerenwilde".

I dunno Visaeris...

Maybe if every other sentence out of your mouth wasnt "We have no druids guild we cant do that" , and you werent constantly acting like a 4 year old who's mother wouldnt by him candy at the grocery store and decided to throw a fit in the middle aisle then maybe what you say over the aetherwaves would have some sway.

The thing is you all are ready to run off and go try and fight someone when we cant even order guards and we dont even have totems up yet. But no... we are the forest without mercy who have to go run and right people without seeing the big picture. Glomdoring has been around what 9 hours. How about we let things settle and calm down a bit first and the RP will come into place.

When people stop asking "Why isn't someone taking down Munsia's demesne?" every other sentence, that'll stop being my response every other sentence. Deal?

You were complaining about it before Munsia even stepped foot in the Glomdoring. You started complaining about it as soon as you got inducted into Glomdoring

I have been miffed about no Druids, but I never said "we need druids to do that" except when people were spazzing about Munsia

Personally, and I don't know what spawned all the fighting because I'm watching IRON CHEF , but why is there combat? You all don't have guards, totems, and you're missing Druids right now.

Roleplay or not, strategy is in-character and I suggest you all use it. Being buddy-buddy until you have some sort of defense up isn't going to kill you unless the other side is being oppresive. Seeing as Magnagora is willing to carve up any Seren that spits in your face you don't lose either way, but obviously the former is better.

That's way over actually. Serenwilde attacked us and started chopping trees(in Ethereal) and killing our cits(on prime), so.. Yeah.

Seren chopping trees? That sounds ... wow.. I don't know bad sort of.

Yeah.. Well.. They're ravenwoods so it's aok I guess. Or something...

In any case, nyla, as a note of clarification: The Druids are kind of an obsession of Vis' at the moment

We havent even started planting trees on ethereal because there was a bug. If you look back through your log you will see me talking to Viravain about it.

I heard you guys started killing our loyal Fae, too. So it goes both ways.

You don't have any (saplings) trees on Ethereal. Infact, I hear you're incapable of planting trees on Ethereal at this time unless that was a quick fix (I'm not underestimating the admin, but I haven't heard differently).

But I guess I feel a little sorry for you guys.. being attacked before you even have a capable defense.

Well, so much for those negotiations we had.

Yeah, well, Glomdoring is screwed. They accepted someone who is still in the Hartstone guild. And now they are accepting a leader of the Hartstone at the Ravenwood, like they are still Serenwildens.

If it's Bau, we basically kicked her out as well as we could without actually being able to outguild her. I appreciate that she wanted to stay and finish the envoy report, but traitors are not staying in Hartstone.

Thanks to me shouting at her over GT.

Yeah, seriously. All I see is a running joke a lot like the Bad News Bears but with a very good race and skills.