A question about Illusions

by Elryn

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Elryn2005-05-25 07:02:23
That skill that turns people into trees or rocks, does it grant total immunity to attack, somewhat like Serpent?

If violet/kether works against it, then I think burst should as well. Otherwise... damn, thats a nifty skill.
Revan2005-05-25 07:41:47
I'm not going to give you the secrets of illusions. Figure it out for yourself wink.gif
Shiri2005-05-25 07:43:23
QUOTE(Elryn @ May 25 2005, 08:02 AM)
That skill that turns people into trees or rocks, does it grant total immunity to attack, somewhat like Serpent?

If violet/kether works against it, then I think burst should as well.  Otherwise... damn, thats a nifty skill.
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It basically means they're not there. Puts them out of phase but in the same location, and only violet/kether hits that. Burst doesn't work on ghosts, does it? Only other dreams.
Yrael2005-05-25 07:59:38
Well, if Burst is the glowing spear dealy, it does.
Shiri2005-05-25 08:45:15
That's Violet.
Elryn2005-05-25 09:34:20
I believe burst works on ghosts.
Ixchilgal2005-05-25 09:49:54
It does.

But I'm not telling you anything about Illusions, just like I didn't tell you anything about Illusions when you were pestering me in lusternia.

Go experiment with one of your own illusionists to learn how it works...oh wait, you can't! Bwahahaha! I guess I'll just laugh while me and my Totem buddy down the street experiment a bit...wait, crap. I don't -have- a Totem buddy, so I don't know much about it.

See how that works? Learn the hard way, geesh.
Elryn2005-05-25 10:01:26
Look, I wanted to confirm that it is indeed a bug you get circled in phase form, along with a reflection of yourself appearing. But Ixchilgal was so evasive about it, I thought I'd ask other illusion users oocly for some reassurance before I bugged it.

My mistake.
Shiri2005-05-25 10:02:02
Man, if you're not going to tell him, don't post just to be snarky about it. Some people.
Summer2005-05-25 11:31:01
QUOTE(Ixchilgal @ May 25 2005, 05:49 PM)
It does.
Go experiment with one of your own illusionists to learn how it works...oh wait, you can't!  Bwahahaha!  I guess I'll just laugh while me and my Totem buddy down the street experiment a bit...wait, crap.  I don't -have- a Totem buddy, so I don't know much about it.
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Actually, you do kinda. *cough* Just have to catch me in the realms / here. Long as you're talking about the Totems skillset anyway. happy.gif
Ixchilgal2005-05-25 21:42:06
I also said I'd discuss it with your Envoy, if you wanted, as long as the knowledge was kept OOC and not spread around. For the very purpose of -not- having everyone know the limitations of what I can do, and making sure that it wasn't a bug.

And yes, I do have the post just to be snarky. It tends to get through to people more than being subtle, or tactful.

Plus it's fun.
Tsuki2005-05-25 21:48:39
hijack.gif ... because I found I was unable to resist doing so.

QUOTE(Ixchilgal @ May 25 2005, 05:42 PM)
Plus it's fun.
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Uncle ... wub.gif why am I not surprised? rolleyes.gif




Terenas2005-05-26 05:33:11
Just because people can post denying others knowledge. If anyone wants to know, just ask me in game.
Ixchilgal2005-05-27 04:38:24
Pish, I don't care if he finds out from someone else, IC. I just get annoyed when people expect me to tell them all my weaknesses, then run to the forums to ask about them when I refuse to give them any information.

Especially under the guise of "trying to discover if it's a bug," since -that- issue had already been dealt with (Being that I offered to discuss it with his Envoy).
Elryn2005-05-27 05:08:31
How is it trying to find your weaknesses?

In that form you count as both phased and unphased, with neither attacks working and strange effects observed when I was dreamweaving.


Anyway, the issue is moot. I bugged it.
Ixchilgal2005-05-27 05:53:20
Actually, the attacks -were- working.

You were successfully Sapping me, Voiding, Haunting, etc. I simply had my triggers turned off not to cure things while I've got Statue/Nature cast, because doing -anything- drops the illusion.

Burst wasn't working, because I had Pentagram up - so I was counted as being shielded, while phased.

Incidentally, that's also why I wasn't responding to you, when you were asking me if everything was alright - I didn't want to drop my illusion.

You were completely unaware of anything (Admittedly, because I refused to tell you about any of it) regarding the actual situation. Which is -exactly- what I was trying to accomplish, to keep my ass alive. Which was -also- why I offered to speak to your Envoy, instead of you just running out and bugging things, not knowing what you were talking about (So, even assuming it -was- a bug, you couldn't have given the information necessary).
Elryn2005-05-27 06:36:20
QUOTE(Ixchilgal @ May 27 2005, 03:53 PM)
Actually, the attacks -were- working.

You were successfully Sapping me, Voiding, Haunting, etc.  I simply had my triggers turned off not to cure things while I've got Statue/Nature cast, because doing -anything- drops the illusion.

Burst wasn't working, because I had Pentagram up - so I was counted as being shielded, while phased.

Incidentally, that's also why I wasn't responding to you, when you were asking me if everything was alright - I didn't want to drop my illusion.

You were completely unaware of anything (Admittedly, because I refused to tell you about any of it) regarding the actual situation.  Which is -exactly- what I was trying to accomplish, to keep my ass alive.  Which was -also- why I offered to speak to your Envoy, instead of you just running out and bugging things, not knowing what you were talking about (So, even assuming it -was- a bug, you couldn't have given the information necessary).
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Ah, thankyou. I still don't really see how this knowledge gives me any advantage over you whatsoever.

And you're right, I didn't want you just speaking to my envoy, because one thing I detest is being told to just run along and let the big boys sort something out.
Ixchilgal2005-05-27 07:04:00
You recall when you first came into the room with me, and bounced Burst off my Pentagram a couple times? And got no response, and asked where my body was? That's -exactly- the advantage I had. You had -no clue- what was going on, or how to counter it.

Which in turn, led to me -not- being sapped, voided, haunted, and so forth. Not until later, where I made the mistake of casting Pentagram and Nature right in front of you, so you figured out what I did, and how to counter it.

Which, admittedly, was my fault. And it wasn't a situation of, "Letting the big boys handle it," it was a case of, "I have a -very- slight advantage at the moment, because you don't know what I'm up to. I intend to keep it that way, so I'm going to be reasonable about making sure it's not a bug to keep you happy, while not telling you the thing that's currently saving my ass."

Now, however, it's been brought into the spotlight, and thoroughly examined, so everyone will know exactly what's up, and I'll have to spend -another- one or two hours experimenting and fiddling with different combinations of skills and how to do things to give me some slight edge the next time we meet.

Which isn't so bad, I learn all sorts of fun things while experimenting, and once in a while, I even get to kill people. But it's still aggravating that people can't accept -anything- at face value, and must assume that every time someone doesn't want to give them information that they don't need to know, that it's a personal attack on them.
Revan2005-05-27 07:38:08
Ix, stop giving away our secrets