The reproduction of Fae...

by Jasper

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Jasper2005-06-01 15:48:26
Alright, so since I haven't been able to get into Lusternia for a few days, I decided to start my family history. Okay, so I start, but then I begin thinking about some things. Now, if my history is allowed it would deal heavily on the Fae, and would make sense for most of Jasper's family is Faeling.

But anyways, I have wondered what happens when a Faeling and an Elfen have a child? Would it be born as a Faeling? Or would it be Elfen?

Also, I wondered this about the Fae. Can a leprechaun have a child with a sprite? And if so, what would it be?
Erion2005-06-01 15:51:04
From what I've gathered from Rowena...

An elfen and a Fae mate, in an ancient ritual. It was a form of covenant, between Elfen and Fae, back when Glinshari and Ellindel were hearthmates, when those two mortals planted the Three Great Trees. It honestly seems to me more like it's male fae and female elfen, given the improbability of a fae being able to give birth. Although I guess a banshee could, given she's just an etheric elfen woman. happy.gif At any rate, the child is, yes, a faeling.
Jasper2005-06-01 15:53:18
QUOTE(Erion @ Jun 1 2005, 03:51 PM)
From what I've gathered from Rowena...

An elfen and a Fae mate, in an ancient ritual.  It was a form of covenant, between Elfen and Fae, back when Glinshari and Ellindel were hearthmates, when those two mortals planted the Three Great Trees.  It honestly seems to me more like it's male fae and female elfen, given the improbability of a fae being able to give birth.  Although I guess a banshee could, given she's just an etheric elfen woman. happy.gif  At any rate, the child is, yes, a faeling.
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But that is Elfen and Fae. Not Elfen and Faeling.

Edit: Nor is it Fae and Fae...
Erion2005-06-01 16:16:20
Oh, crap. o.o See, I can't read. Elfen and Faeling? A more elfen Faeling? Faeling and Fae? A more fae of a faeling?

I mean, let's take what we do know. We have a black human and a white human. Mix, and you get something inbetween. They're obviously black, but they also carry some of the traits from their white-skin parent. Maybe their skin is a mixture of light and dark, with a strange brown instead of the deeper tones, like their black parent. Mix more white in. They're lighter.

So, elfen/faeling? Probably a bigger faeling. Maybe more elfen characteristics. I imagine down the line you could breed out the fae in them, and just have elfen children. Reverse would apply.

Fae/fae? Honestly, I never considered the Fae as things that breed. Har. Perhaps they can't? They seem to be immortal. Although the Fae girl poses that interesting question of "where did she come from?" And obviously they can breed, since Laeroc got Rowena preggers, and relations similiar to that birthed faelings. Har. Gwylifar? Commere. I'm sure you could answer this for us. >.>
Unknown2005-06-01 16:32:11
I'd say it's a chance to go either way. In Lusternia the obvious theme is, you're dracnari as long as you can breath fire, you're faeling as long as you can fly and you're not a trill, etc.
Shorlen2005-06-01 18:05:46
QUOTE(Jasper @ Jun 1 2005, 11:48 AM)
Also, I wondered this about the Fae. Can a leprechaun have a child with a sprite? And if so, what would it be?
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I can't imagine Fae being able to bear children, seeing as they are the physical essence of the earth given physical form. Them having children with Elfen females is possible because they give up some of their essence to fertilize the egg, just as any other male does (DNA/essence, whatever). At least, that's how I've always seen it.
Richter2005-06-01 18:19:18
The example of black and white mixing is a bit flawed, I think, because fae and elfen are the proverbial apples and oranges. But, if white people had wings, and black people were tall and had pointy ears... hehe...
Erion2005-06-01 18:36:25
Har! tongue.gif Fine. Dolphins and whales. Wolphins, anyone? There's two of them, crossbred from a killer whale and a porpoise (sp?).
Richter2005-06-01 18:57:18
Anyone else have anymore "mythical creatures" to suggest?

Leprecorn? Chupacobra?
Erion2005-06-01 18:59:16
Harhar. Chupacobra.
Richter2005-06-01 19:01:33
I like that one. S'got a riiing to it.
Unknown2005-06-01 20:40:02
Ligers. biggrin.gif
Rhysus2005-06-01 20:56:34
Ligers and wolphins both exist, if in limited quantities. Hardly mythical.
Ceres2005-06-01 21:01:23
QUOTE(Richter @ Jun 1 2005, 07:01 PM)
I like that one. S'got a riiing to it.
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Just stick with Warthog, Church.
Richter2005-06-01 21:04:34
You mean that puma-looking thing?
Erion2005-06-01 21:25:45
Thank you, Rhysus.
Gwylifar2005-06-02 00:47:14
I'm not sure, but I think it's an honor to be asked to comment. I think.

I don't know that anyone but the admin can say definitively about how the fae reproduce or even if they do. I suspect they would say something like "Fae reproduce when the story requires them to." Or more accurately they wouldn't say that, so we can't see the man behind the curtain.

With that in mind, we know the fae are inspired by Celtic myth. The fae of Celtic myth had one noteworthy aspect to their reproduction: they didn't, not really. Instead they took human children and left behind changelings. Celtic lore is full of tales of this, and how to tell a changeling. However, there also are stores of fae breeding, so you really can pick and choose.

Frankly I've always been kind of disappointed in the tendency towards having rampant crossbreeding in fantasy games. It just doesn't make sense to me that inter-race fertility should be the norm, not a really remarkable exception. In a world like Lusternia where you can't be a half-this-half-that, maybe we should embrace that, and assume fae and elfen are an exception for mystical reasons. But you know that'll never happen.

So a Punnett square is as arbitrarily good and bad as anything. Faeling + elfen = 50% faeling, 50% elfen. Give it a fair chance to be a taller faeling or a smaller elfen, I suppose, within the bounds of roleplay wiggleroom. We really don't have any reason not to go whichever way you want to. Heck, if I were supreme dictator, I'd strongly consider having faelings not even being sexual beings in the first place, and let their reproduction be some mystical moonlit rite that involves dancing under flowers, or drinking each other's blood, or something. So don't ask me.
Shorlen2005-06-02 01:04:40
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jun 1 2005, 08:47 PM)
Frankly I've always been kind of disappointed in the tendency towards having rampant crossbreeding in fantasy games.  It just doesn't make sense to me that inter-race fertility should be the norm, not a really remarkable exception.  In a world like Lusternia where you can't be a half-this-half-that, maybe we should embrace that, and assume fae and elfen are an exception for mystical reasons.  But you know that'll never happen.

So a Punnett square is as arbitrarily good and bad as anything.  Faeling + elfen = 50% faeling, 50% elfen.  Give it a fair chance to be a taller faeling or a smaller elfen, I suppose, within the bounds of roleplay wiggleroom.  We really don't have any reason not to go whichever way you want to.  Heck, if I were supreme dictator, I'd strongly consider having faelings not even being sexual beings in the first place, and let their reproduction be some mystical moonlit rite that involves dancing under flowers, or drinking each other's blood, or something.  So don't ask me.
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In this game, as far as I understood it, the races could all crossbreed, and what people of various races looked like varied rather widly because of it, *especially* humans, who are anyone with any drop of human blood. Dracnari are those with dracnari blood who can breathe fire. If they can't, they're not considered Dracnari. Trill have feathered wings and can fly. If they can't actually fly with their wings, they aren't trill. Faelings have butterfly/bat wings, and can fly. If they can't, they're not Faelings. etc.
Elryn2005-06-02 01:06:52
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jun 2 2005, 10:47 AM)
Heck, if I were supreme dictator, I'd strongly consider having faelings not even being sexual beings in the first place, and let their reproduction be some mystical moonlit rite that involves dancing under flowers, or drinking each other's blood, or something.  So don't ask me.
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Tsuki2005-06-02 01:19:32
No sex? Poor faelings...

And that would really mess up how Tatiana and I showed up. Right now, it seems semi-possible, if not perfectly probable. Just don't ask me how we're related to a mugwump. unsure.gif

Punnett squares! That's what I was trying to remember earlier. That was so much fun in high school ... *nostalgic*