Cuba is not a Democaracy

by Daganev

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Daganev2005-06-10 02:29:23
de·moc·ra·cy (dĭ-mŏk'rə-sē)
n., pl. -cies.
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.





Encyclopedia
democracy , term originating in ancient Greece to designate a government where the people share in directing the activities of the state, as distinct from governments controlled by a single class, select group, or autocrat. The definition of democracy has been expanded, however, to describe a philosophy that insists on the right and the capacity of a people, acting either directly or through representatives, to control their institutions for their own purposes. Such a philosophy places a high value on the equality of individuals and would free people as far as possible from restraints not self-imposed. It insists that necessary restraints be imposed only by the consent of the majority and that they conform to the principle of equality.




Government

Cuba is a one-party Communist state; the Cuban Communist party (PCC) is the only legal political party. The country is governed under the constitution of 1976. The government is led by Fidel Castro, who became prime minister in 1959 and president in 1976. The unicameral legislature, the national assembly, is elected directly by the people. Cuba's legal system is based on Spanish and American law mingled with Communist legal theory. Administratively, Cuba is divided into 14 provinces.




Two Faces of Democracy

The forces arrayed against us and their ancient origin, have been outlined in these pages, but it may also be well to remind ourselves of more conventional views. In "The Dilemma of Democracy" (1978) Lord Hailsham comments:

"Our troubles derive from the fact that we are halting between two inconsistent opinions about the nature of democracy ...Both opinions claim to be democratic ... Both claim to rest upon the interest of people. Yet each is wholly inconsistent with the other ... The two theories are the theory of centralized democracy, known to me as elective dictatorship, and the theory of limited government, in my language the doctrine of freedom under law.".

"..one will assert the right of a bare majority ... to assert its will over a whole people whatever that will may be. It will end in a rigid economic plan, and, I believe, in a siege economy, a curbed and subservient judiciary, and a regulated press. It will impose uniformity on the whole nation in the interest of what it claims to be social justice. It will insist on equality. .. It will crush local autonomy. It will dictate the structure, form, and content of education. ... It will worship material values. .. When its policies fail, it will rely strongly on class divisiveness or scapegoats to distract attention .."


Democracy is a form of government under which the power to alter the laws and structures of government lies, ultimately, with the citizenry. Under such a system, legislative decisions are made by the people themselves or by representatives who act through the consent of the people, as enforced by elections and the rule of law.


Etymology
The word democracy originates from the Greek δημοκρατíα from δημος meaning "the people", plus κρατειν meaning "to rule", and the suffix íα; the term therefore means "rule by the people."


democracy (disambiguation)
The concept of democracy within politics is commonly referred to from many different perspectives:

Modern democracy — democracy implemented within constructs that protect individual rights and maintain a balance of power.
Liberal democracy — the ideals behind modern democracy, specifically with respect to representative democracy.
Athenian democracy — democracy as originally invented; a majoritarian model.
Direct democracy — implementations of democracy in more pure forms.
Democracy (varieties) — all the other approaches to democracy in existence.
Democracy is also an 1880 novel by Henry Adams.


See also
List of politics-related topics



This is a disambiguation page — a navigational aid which lists other pages that might otherwise share the same title. If an article link referred you here, you might want to go back and fix it to point directly to the intended page




Of all the searches I did for Centeralized democarcy the paper that guy wrote in 1978 was the only legitimate source (i.e. had a refrence)

So first of all... Centeralized Democracy does not exist, and if it did it would still require the vote of the people.

Your AP government teachers are trying to play the moral equivilancy game, trying to make you think that everything is reletive and nothing has meaning, so that you can't tell the difference between freedom and opression. Stand strong and don't be brainwashed.
Erion2005-06-10 13:16:19
QUOTE(daganev @ Jun 9 2005, 10:29 PM)
de·moc·ra·cy (dĭ-mŏk'rə-sē)
n., pl. -cies.
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.


 
Encyclopedia
democracy , term originating in ancient Greece to designate a government where the people share in directing the activities of the state, as distinct from governments controlled by a single class, select group, or autocrat. The definition of democracy has been expanded, however, to describe a philosophy that insists on the right and the capacity of a people, acting either directly or through representatives, to control their institutions for their own purposes. Such a philosophy places a high value on the equality of individuals and would free people as far as possible from restraints not self-imposed. It insists that necessary restraints be imposed only by the consent of the majority and that they conform to the principle of equality.
Government

Cuba is a one-party Communist state; the Cuban Communist party (PCC) is the only legal political party. The country is governed under the constitution of 1976. The government is led by Fidel Castro, who became prime minister in 1959 and president in 1976. The unicameral legislature, the national assembly, is elected directly by the people. Cuba's legal system is based on Spanish and American law mingled with Communist legal theory. Administratively, Cuba is divided into 14 provinces.
Two Faces of Democracy

The forces arrayed against us and their ancient origin, have been outlined in these pages, but it may also be well to remind ourselves of more conventional views. In "The Dilemma of Democracy" (1978) Lord Hailsham comments:

"Our troubles derive from the fact that we are halting between two inconsistent opinions about the nature of democracy ...Both opinions claim to be democratic ... Both claim to rest upon the interest of people. Yet each is wholly inconsistent with the other ... The two theories are the theory of centralized democracy, known to me as elective dictatorship, and the theory of limited government, in my language the doctrine of freedom under law.".

"..one will assert the right of a bare majority ... to assert its will over a whole people whatever that will may be. It will end in a rigid economic plan, and, I believe, in a siege economy, a curbed and subservient judiciary, and a regulated press. It will impose uniformity on the whole nation in the interest of what it claims to be social justice. It will insist on equality. .. It will crush local autonomy. It will dictate the structure, form, and content of education. ... It will worship material values. .. When its policies fail, it will rely strongly on class divisiveness or scapegoats to distract attention .."
Democracy is a form of government under which the power to alter the laws and structures of government lies, ultimately, with the citizenry. Under such a system, legislative decisions are made by the people themselves or by representatives who act through the consent of the people, as enforced by elections and the rule of law.
Etymology
The word democracy originates from the Greek δημοκρατíα from δημος meaning "the people", plus κρατειν meaning "to rule", and the suffix íα; the term therefore means "rule by the people."
democracy (disambiguation)
The concept of democracy within politics is commonly referred to from many different perspectives:

Modern democracy — democracy implemented within constructs that protect individual rights and maintain a balance of power.
Liberal democracy — the ideals behind modern democracy, specifically with respect to representative democracy.
Athenian democracy — democracy as originally invented; a majoritarian model.
Direct democracy — implementations of democracy in more pure forms.
Democracy (varieties) — all the other approaches to democracy in existence.
Democracy is also an 1880 novel by Henry Adams.
See also
List of politics-related topics
This is a disambiguation page — a navigational aid which lists other pages that might otherwise share the same title. If an article link referred you here, you might want to go back and fix it to point directly to the intended page
Of all the searches I did for Centeralized democarcy the paper that guy wrote in 1978 was the only legitimate source (i.e. had a refrence)

So first of all... Centeralized Democracy does not exist, and if it did it would still require the vote of the people.

Your AP government teachers are trying to play the moral equivilancy game, trying to make you think that everything is reletive and nothing has meaning, so that you can't tell the difference between freedom and opression.  Stand strong and don't be brainwashed.
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I know the difference between Freedom and Opression. I also live about 116 miles or so from Cuba, so I see and hear float-overs very often. I've also been to Cuba a few times in my life. It's not as opressive as people make it sound. It is, by the vaguest definition of democracy (At least, the ones I've been given throughout studies), a democracy in that it is ruled with the intent of being ruled *for* the people. I cannot say it necessarily is.

That said, Cuba is, in general, a very beautiful country. The people there, for the most part, are not all that upset with their positions in life. Not everyone may be happy, but many people are not happy in America, either. I'll reserve my opinions of the float-overs and those that scream Cuba is a horrid place and how Castro is a monster - because then I'll sound like a racist. Which I'm not. rolleyes.gif blink.gif I'll spend some time today sending out some e-mails and researching, it's rainy and not much is happening (despite people trying to sway me with offers of sugar for a higher order number... even though order numbers have nothing to do with how soon they get done...).
Daganev2005-06-10 13:22:00
QUOTE(Erion @ Jun 10 2005, 05:16 AM)
I know the difference between Freedom and Opression.  I also live about 116 miles or so from Cuba, so I see and hear float-overs very often.  I've also been to Cuba a few times in my life.  It's not as opressive as people make it sound.  It is, by the vaguest definition of democracy (At least, the ones I've been given throughout studies), a democracy in that it is ruled with the intent of being ruled *for* the people.  I cannot say it necessarily is.
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Thats what I was trying to show you with all those quotes, Democracy means ruled BY the people, not FOR the people. EVERY Form of Government claims to rule FOR The people.

It is common for teachers and educational institutions to start throwing around new definitions for old terms in order to make you think twice about "what you supposedly know" which in some cases is good, but a majority of the time its just teaching you false information, like in this case. If the Population is not the source of the power of the government than its not a Democaracy. Its very simple. There are 5 - 10 different forms of democaracy, but all of them require that the population vote among choices.

I'm sure Cuba is wonderfull, that wasn't my point.
Erion2005-06-10 13:36:04
Ah. I'm still waking up >.> I've not had caffeine. *wanders towards the break room, stealthily*

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Unknown2005-06-10 14:46:11
I certainly don't care about Cuba's government.
Erion2005-06-10 14:48:08
Then stay the hell off the thread? smile.gif
Manjanaia2005-06-10 16:30:29
What a pointless comment. Get off the damn thread.

I always thought of Cuba as something of an oligarchy. But then, I've never quite understand the meaning of an oligarchy. I think it's like a dictatorial group of leaders. Or like a board of directors running a country.

Actually come to think of it, Cuba is nothing like an oligarchy.

I think, Cuba is a one party state. It is a democracy technically, but the one party there have no competition, therefore they win all elections. And they aren't quite playing fair. It is intended to be democratic, it's just not working that way.
Erion2005-06-10 16:47:37
Hey, blame the U.S. either way. They put him there.
Manjanaia2005-06-10 16:50:01
Yeah I hate American's who go on about Communist Cuba and how much they hate it. Yo, it's your government that puts these whackjobs in charge, and it's your government that sucks.
Erion2005-06-10 16:52:08
Hear hear.
Terenas2005-06-10 16:55:14
Meh, when your country has been instituting as many goverment leaders in as many countries as the U.S. did ever since it became a superpower, you're bound to screw up once in a while. tongue.gif
Manjanaia2005-06-10 16:56:05
You on about England? Yeah we suck too. We made concentration camps and enslaved half the world. And now we just suck generally.
Erion2005-06-10 17:03:50
He was commenting on the US, not the UK.
Erion2005-06-10 17:04:33
That said, there's a lot of things people outside don't seem to realize. Did you know Cuba's building a Nuclear Power Plant (or trying), and the US sent engineers out there to do it for them?
Manjanaia2005-06-10 17:14:01
Oh right yeah I completely misunderstood that post.

The main quibble about the American government is the censor.gif spreading of 'freedom'. They don't mind invading Iraq to remove a dictator but they won't go to Zimbabwe? What the hell is up with that. They won't go to North Korea because they know they'll get caned. It would be Vietnam 2 except America gave them the technology and the weapons. They'd rather have bad dictators instituted then communist ones. I've never seen US government worrying about the troubles in Ireland. And why the hell aren't they supporting us in African aid?

As an aside, there was an interesting story in some newspaper I was reading today. The world spends about a trillion dollars on arms a year, and a few billion on aid. That sucks.

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Erion2005-06-10 17:21:41
Yea. I'm not the most left you can get (although I'm farther than Ghandi), I still support the death penalty (I'd like it to be quicker, easier. IE, bullet to the forehead).

As the entire BS war in Iraq went on, I was wondering what we were going to do about the Dufarians, which were being prosecuted and killed to extinction by an arab country there in Africa.

Then I remembered they were black, but lacked gold of the same color. And then I also remembered that Freedom was on the March, we've not time for the LESSER, INFERIOR races. We must save the poor kurds, though. I guess we do it by racial slurrs, and which has the most words involved?
Terenas2005-06-10 17:30:45
Aside from liberation of the Iraqi people, there are ulterior motives as well. Iraq is predicted to have the largest deposits of untapped oil reserves in the world, possibly only behind Saudi Arabia. And again, oil was a major reason for the Afghan war because the country was a crucial point for oil pipelines to cross.
Erion2005-06-10 17:32:32
No crap. biggrin.gif They don't give a censor.gif about the Iraqi people. They're irrelevant pieces of trash. They're just humanoid pieces of toilet paper, and will be used as essentially slave labour to extract oil, versus moving to something far better - like, hydrogen.

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Manjanaia2005-06-10 17:37:29
Or weed biggrin.gif The Real Alternate Energy Source!

I'm starting a thread on this to save hijacking.
Erion2005-06-10 17:37:56
Screw that. Hydrogen forever.