As far as I can tell, there is no advantage to having sixth sense up 99% of the time. If you have sixth sense up and get hit with anything that would blind/deafen you, you must apply health or eat faeleaf /twice/ to achieve the same benefit as if you just applied health or ate faeleaf once without sixth sense.

This essentially boils down to sixth sense being more negative than positive. For this reason, I was wondering if there is any hidden advantage that I am missing or if anyone has suggestions on how this could be tweaked to make blindness/deafness both "nasty" afflictions but at the same time, give sixth sense some purpose.

This was in Idiots already. But I figure if you get hit by an attack that strips sixthsense, it would unblind/undeaf as well? (And then make duststorm strip sixthsense.)

Nope, if you have sixth sense up, and get hit, it strips sixth sense and leaves you both deaf and blind, forcing you to cure both to eat faeleaf again to have sixth sense.

In my opinion, it's a waste of faeleaf.

That was an idea, not a comment on how it actually works.

It was my understanding that some abilities that do not of themselves blind or deafen, still rely on the target not being blind or deaf to work. This is the advantage of sixth sense.

Jewellers perfect gem, for instance. It only works if the target is not blind, but does not actually strip sixth sense if they are. Nihilist dominate and barghest (I think) paralysis would be the same, would it not?

I agree its a pretty awful defence to have, but it does still have a use.

Its a bit annoying but I believe this is how its intended to be.

But it means it can't be used as a defence. :/

I would like to know if Lipreading counters all effects of deafness (ie, still can hear shouts and channels). If it does, then sixth sense is a substandard defence until you can learn to lipread.

Blindness doesn't have something like that, though.

It doesn't. You can hear shouts while deaf, you can hear speech while lipreading, and you can hear clans while deaf, but CT is off.

I say make applying health require a salve balance, or make curing blindness/deafness a mending thing.

Weird. I just realized you can't make yourself deaf directly though, so it can't function as a defence anyway.

So much for gem/barghest/dominate being preventable against those who can strip sixth sense.

SIP TETRODIN

Ooo... clever Shiri.

I think faelaef should simply give sixth sense, and nothing more, like a mindseye tat in Achaea. We have deaf/blind poisons to achieve those "defences" already, so we wouldn't even need anything to give those.

Except you can't have sixth sense without being blind and dead, and if you become blind or deaf it strips sixth sense.

I'm fairly sure the former isn't the case. I could be wrong if we're talking about post-changes, but I know there was a way before.

Apply healing to head 2x.

That would obviously have to change, or it'd still be worthless.

Sixth sense should be stripped if either blindness or deafness are cured, not afflicted.

Assuming that one is either blind or one is not, and also that one is either deaf or one is not, then if blind and deaf, anything which would make one blind or deaf would do nothing at all, since one could neither be blinder than blind nor deafer than deaf.

The mind perceives the world through recollection. Cut off from sight and sound, the sixth sense, as ephemeral as thought, creates that recollection directly. As soon as either sight or sound return, perception floods into the mind again, destroying the delicate perceptions of the sixth sense and stripping it as a defense.

Any attack to deafen or blind while perceiving though the sixth sense is rendered as recollection. I sincerely doubt that the remembrance of blinding light or deafening sound is any more damaging than the remembrance of being hit or slapped, which is to say, not damaging at all.

Eating faeleaf should cause you to become blind and deaf, and if blind and deaf, to gain the sixth sense.

The intent of the coders or not, I challenge anyone to back up the way things are now with reasoning. It's really rather absurd.

Melanchthon actually has good things to add... He don't need my +1 ...


My 2 cents is that, while a pain, at least it's an AFFLICTION now, not a defense. I'd rather sixth-sense be a defense that, when hit with blind/death, is stripped, and doesn't leave you blind/deaf. Like drinking a fire-vial.