Ok...

I'll try to keep this brief, so I'll use points instead of sentences.

1. The perception of credit prices currently scares people into thinking they have no hope of buying credits ingame.

2. GMs and City/Commune leaders are in the position that they get access to Credits that they do not actually work for.

3. Since the Ebonguard have been selling credits at 1800 a piece, we have actually recieved MORE credit purchases than we did at the opening of the guild.

4. I conclude that while it won't change the credit market at all, the knowledge for people who are GR1 that they can get really cheap credits (I suggest below 2K) will stimulate more people staying in the guild and thus buying more credits, and thus making life easier for everyone, same the people like me who like credit prices to be high so that thier Hard earned money goes further.

5. I think if all the GMs and Leaders could stick to something like this, and forget about the ICness of needed as much gold as possible... which is really silly cause once you have an arena there really isn't much to spend gold on, that selling credits at 2000 instead of 3 or 4 thousand is going to help.



NOTE:
I know some of you think I'm an idiot, but I really don't care... ALTS is not a vialbe excuse for this to not happen because its easy to take care of those things, and if someone is putting the time and effort in to make you think he's not an alt, then I think they deserve cheap credits anways, just like any other new player does.

When it comes to Leisure entertainment and games such as Lusternia, I think Perception is a lot more important a factor than the min/max abilities of a few players, thus while it may be easy to make 10K gold, your average newbie doesn't think that.

I agree with your suggestion.

I also have one of my own, which is more of an issue for Estarra and Co to deal with: can we make the commune/guild credits be neocredits? That would avoid the possibility of alts being made to purchase the credits and resell them on the open market for gazillions of gold.

Credits are in the realm of the IRE heads, and really can't be altered by Estarra, however, we as players can do whatever the hell we want as long as it doesn't break HELP SECONDS.

Really? Hmm. It seems a bit silly to me that they aren't neocredits already. Meh.

If they were neocredits, you couldn't get artis with them, which is still a form of strengthening yourself.

I'd rather that than have them inflating the credit market even more *shrug*.

I was about to post that, then realised that they probably want artifacts to be bought OOC anyway. I suspect Daganev's evaluation of more people buying credits after buying them IC is either illusory (how the hell does he tell anyway?) or a complete fluke, though, so someone would have to actually look into that to see if it's even remotely accurate.

It's actually true, we've had a large flux of credit purchases, which have kept the guild from running out even though we're selling.

If you can buy credits cheaply with gold and sell them at a higher price, that would encourage people to buy credits to sell on the market and double their value by replacing them with guild or city credits. I know it is part of my calculation. And frankly, this is just fine: it increases the supply on the market and people get more for their RL cash if they do it right.

When people stop buying on the market though then we run into problems.

I don't use the credit market much myself, I've sold a total of about 12 credits there when I needed a little quick money, but that was about it. The stories I hear about it though seem to say that sales are drying up *shrug*.

People stop buying on the market because the prices are above people's tolerance or perceived value of a credit. If people need gold, they can sell it lower. If my guild is willing to sell me credits even at 2500, and I know I can sell credits at 5000 INSTANTLY, don't you see how that doubles what the website says you're getting for credit purchases? And if I'm getting twice as much, that's better than any credit sale...THAT WILL encourage people to buy OOC.

This isn't rocket surgery.

How the hell do you perform surgery on a rocket?

Very carefully. You tinker with the parts, fix 'em up, and hope they don't go boom.

Anyway.. lets keep this for the Leaders to read... I would have sent messages but I think pepole would find it too ooc or something.

That said, the prices should probaablly be 1999 per credit max.

how about 2000, that would be a bit easier woulnd't ya think?

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You lost me there.

I like cheese.

The idea is to give the impression that they are really cheap... so 19.99 works for stores.. 1999 should work for lusternia... or we can do 1900

I don't think people value 1 gold sovereign(sp?) very highly

If you think these prices are high, you should see Achaea.

Anyway, here we have an easy and infinite gold source, in the Astral plane.