Ok, based on chatting with Geb, i've come up with a suggestion for a new skill for beoncrusher


AB BONECRUSHER CRUSHSPINE

When your target is prone, you can kick them over onto their stomach and deliver a spine-crunching move in one swift motion. You must be wielding a hammer to do so.

Damage: 30-40% of max HP, longish balance recovery independant of weapon stats.


Perhaps they will have to have a broken leg too, as to avoid whoring it with knockdown and paralysis hitting at the same time, or maybe a power cost to balance it out a bit more.

This skill would help out those speed BCs who can mangle legs, but don't really have much of an offence apart from keeping someone prone.

The mechanics of it seems good. However, I do have one question. If you are to kick someone in the gut while they are prone, why does it matter if I am wielding a hammer or lawn chair?

Because damage bonecrushers are already way too good, speed bonecrushers could use some work.

damage BC's have the potential to be good at dealing damage and getting damage kills

but who wants to powergame where you can use your bashing macro andkill most people??

Damage BM's aren't half bad either....The idea is Icarus, that you kick them ONTO their guts, so their back is exposed, and then wail on their spine with a hammer

makes it interesting

Ah right. I understand now.

plus I'm sure an awesome kill message would be able to be coded if you kill them with it

*whistle* well if BC's get that, BM's should get...

AB BLADEMASTER ACUPUNCTURE LEFT/RIGHT ARM/LEG

For a low low cost of 3 power, if you have a dagger in your inventory, you can stab your opponent in their arms or legs with a dagger, redering the limb usless until the dagger is removed.

Damage: 300 and 50 bleeding+ each turn

Aaand a new ability in Environment.

AB ENVIRONMENT REMOVE

REMOVE *limb*

With this ability you can remove a object lodged within a limb.

Remove has about the same balance loss as Scrubbing. Ohh and if you manage to get away without dying, if you remove the daggers, you keep em.


Now why should we do this? Because it'd actually be fun, and basically it'd suit Blademasters perfectly, why shouldn't they have the ability to shove daggers into your limbs, it'd work well with their abilities. Ohh and if you have all your limbs punctured with daggers or various other small pointly implements, Needles, Dirks and the like, no swords, you'd be prone but standing and if there's decapitate here which i dont know, you'd be able to do that. Ohh and if one of your arms was punctured, it'd mean you couldn't parry with that.

BC need that ability cause they can't bleed people like BM's

Because Bonecrushers aren't meant to bleed people. (Or, atleast, that's the idea I was getting.)

Well i highly doubt any bonecrusher should shove his mace/hammer into a limb without splitting it open. If they can, i'd like to meet them. BC's should get...

AB BONECRUSHER TOESTOMP

By crushing the tips of your targets feet, you can cause continious bleeding, also creating a chance that the target might slip up when they try to leave as the pool of blood around their feet.

Power: 2

Damage 500 100 Bleeding+

Cure: None, it stops after 30 seconds or so.

I like this idea. It makes sense, and like Murphy says, speed bonecrushers really aren't decent compared to damage bonecrushers.

tenqual: Blademasters aren't getting anything new because they don't need anything new!

Well, more bonecrusher skills are always good, and this one sounds fairly interesting.

And lets me combo with trample.

ahhhh, you can usually heal trample and stand up by the time the trampler recoveres balance....so you'llneed to combo it with breakleg and muntedleg