Gwylifar2005-07-09 14:22:39
Make an object that can be "borrowed" from the Gods, and only by people who've got good rolepoints and proven their dedication to roleplaying, which lets them temporarily do illusions. To prevent abuses, you can only create an illusion with it if you have full health and mana. It resets after, say, an hour.
This could be implemented very easily: just a single item you have to TELL the illusion you want, for instance.
So you can request one just before you're going to do a ritual or something. Saves having to tie down one of the far-too-busy Divine to handle these things; also saves having to invite someone who would have no reason to be there otherwise, and who might be inappropriate to have there for some kinds of rituals and such.
Inspired by Shamarah's rite which makes me envious of the ability of illusions to round out a bit of story-creation.
If anyone can think of other ways this could be abused, post them so we can figure out ways to fix them.
This could be implemented very easily: just a single item you have to TELL the illusion you want, for instance.
So you can request one just before you're going to do a ritual or something. Saves having to tie down one of the far-too-busy Divine to handle these things; also saves having to invite someone who would have no reason to be there otherwise, and who might be inappropriate to have there for some kinds of rituals and such.
Inspired by Shamarah's rite which makes me envious of the ability of illusions to round out a bit of story-creation.
If anyone can think of other ways this could be abused, post them so we can figure out ways to fix them.
Geb2005-07-09 17:26:41
How about just create a wand of illusions artifact and sell it? Other IRE realms have them as an item for sale, so it probably would do decently well here.
Shamarah2005-07-09 17:41:20
Yes, but you wouldn't want to have to pay several hundred credits just to make illusions for a ritual.
Silvenae2005-07-09 21:08:54
You could just have one for the GM or CL and then he could pass it on to whoever got elected after him, like a champion artifact. Then he could use in guild/city roleplay stuff and people in the organization could borrow it from him when they wanted it for something. It's easier than having the Divine handle who has one and when, as the Divine have better things to be doing.
(only possible abuse I can think of is setting off people's triggers with it, but you can do that with a say.)
(only possible abuse I can think of is setting off people's triggers with it, but you can do that with a say.)
Soll2005-07-09 21:28:37
And emotes.
Shiri2005-07-09 23:52:07
There're ways around both of those, but Gwylifar's talking about a full health/mana req, and probably a 4 second balance or so, making it completely pointless for that sort of pursuit.
Unknown2005-07-10 00:05:53
I like the idea. It would give us all a great deal of freedom.
Gwylifar2005-07-10 01:23:43
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 9 2005, 07:52 PM)
There're ways around both of those, but Gwylifar's talking about a full health/mana req, and probably a 4 second balance or so, making it completely pointless for that sort of pursuit.
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I hadn't even thought of a balance limitation, but yeah, that'd help ensure no abuse without limiting usefulness.
Elryn2005-07-10 01:38:18
I can see why this would be useful, but could you not just hire a dreamweaver? They will not disturb the rite, being not physically present.
Gwylifar2005-07-10 02:31:07
Sure, but I think that's a less desirable solution for a number of reasons.
1: Getting a bunch of people into a room at once is hard enough; every extraneous person you add to the list makes it harder, and when someone's only doing it for gold that's even more true. In fact, the closest I think I've come to being able to hold the kind of RP event that'd use this, it was spontaneous ("hey, look how many people are logged in, let's see if we can do this!").
2: One of the reasons I thought this would be good is it would remove an intermediary so things could be improvised by whoever is "running" the rite to fit whatever's going on, just as the aquamancers did; this is particularly useful if the event isn't strictly scripted, and frankly I prefer ones where there's some room for the individuals to contribute creativity, not just recitation. How hard is it for me and a dreambody present at my RP event to communicate so I can make up new illusions on the fly, and how quickly can that be done?
That said, if dreamwalkers need a source of income and are willing to put in the time to do this at a price I can afford, and be flexible enough about timing and have ways of dealing with the improvisation issue, I'm never one to deny someone else a way to make a living.
1: Getting a bunch of people into a room at once is hard enough; every extraneous person you add to the list makes it harder, and when someone's only doing it for gold that's even more true. In fact, the closest I think I've come to being able to hold the kind of RP event that'd use this, it was spontaneous ("hey, look how many people are logged in, let's see if we can do this!").
2: One of the reasons I thought this would be good is it would remove an intermediary so things could be improvised by whoever is "running" the rite to fit whatever's going on, just as the aquamancers did; this is particularly useful if the event isn't strictly scripted, and frankly I prefer ones where there's some room for the individuals to contribute creativity, not just recitation. How hard is it for me and a dreambody present at my RP event to communicate so I can make up new illusions on the fly, and how quickly can that be done?
That said, if dreamwalkers need a source of income and are willing to put in the time to do this at a price I can afford, and be flexible enough about timing and have ways of dealing with the improvisation issue, I'm never one to deny someone else a way to make a living.
Anarias2005-07-11 10:47:55
The shamans in Achaea have an altar that will cast a room-wide illusion when you tell it what you want it to show. Its awesome but not mobile. You ought to find out if anything equivalent could be installed for the serenguard/commune.
Gwylifar2005-07-11 13:23:44
Hey, that's another possible way of limiting the effect of this thing. Instead of having it go into the person's inventory, have it be put in a location and be not-takeable. That gets the advantages of that altar, but benefits everyone, not just one guild or nation.
Murphy2005-07-11 13:27:13
I got one for you to use with dreamers who wanted to sell this service.
Trigger: Gwylifar tells you, "%1"
#IF (@RPillusioning = 1) {dreamweave conjure %1}
then add in multi-lines to caputre longer illusions. then gwylifar can use you like an inanimate object
Trigger: Gwylifar tells you, "%1"
#IF (@RPillusioning = 1) {dreamweave conjure %1}
then add in multi-lines to caputre longer illusions. then gwylifar can use you like an inanimate object
Gwylifar2005-07-11 13:36:19
Yeah, but can I send tells to a dreamwalker in dreamform and will he receive them? That's what I wasn't sure about.
Shiri2005-07-11 13:45:44
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jul 11 2005, 02:36 PM)
Yeah, but can I send tells to a dreamwalker in dreamform and will he receive them? That's what I wasn't sure about.
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Yes, and no, respectively. (Unless it was changed recently. But I know I sent like 10 tells to Elryn and he didn't get 'em.)
Elryn2005-07-11 16:54:00
That's right Shiri, they go through to your body, but the dreamweaver doesn't get them until they stop dreamweaving and check TELLS.
Its one of those annoying little things about dreamweaving, its hard for someone to communicate with them short of speaking aloud and giving away their presence.
Its one of those annoying little things about dreamweaving, its hard for someone to communicate with them short of speaking aloud and giving away their presence.
Murphy2005-07-11 23:06:29
You COULD always do it OOCLY through AIM, but I agree a game mechanic should exist
Unknown2005-07-11 23:46:58
I know my dreamweaver would be willing to do it for free. I love seeing good RP
Unknown2005-07-23 11:08:11
Oh! I like that idea!