Gaetele2005-07-14 21:25:57
I'll get straight to the point.
Why? D:
CODE
990h, 660m, 210e, 0p, 3850en, 3141w eSlrxdb-
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
l
Before the Gnome Throne.
Stairs lead up to a large stone throne. A red carpet drapes down the stairs and
to the great hall. Intricate designs have been carved on the thrones back and
arms, and a small red pillow is on the seat. Wielding a golden hammer, King
Newtonson sits imperiously on a throne.
You see a single exit leading west.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
sc
Pupil Xailere
 Sex   : Male      Race    : Viscanti
 Level  : 15 (50%)    Rank    : Stalwart
 Health : 990/990    Endurance : 3850/3850
 Mana  : 660/900    Willpower : 3103/3400
 Ego   : 110/810    Reserves  : 0%
 Karma  : 7%
You stand tall as a proud citizen of the Mighty Dominion of Magnagora.
You have reached the rank of 'Serf' in your city.
You are a Freshmen Novice in the Geomancers.
You are a member of the Gourmonds Cooking Cartel.
You are a Vagrant in the Fellowship of Explorers
You are a member of the clan called 'The Black Soil Conclave.'
You are 16 years old.
You were born on the 12th of Kiani, 106 years after the Coming of Estarra.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3109w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3115w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3115w elrxdb-
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
l
Before the Gnome Throne.
Stairs lead up to a large stone throne. A red carpet drapes down the stairs and
to the great hall. Intricate designs have been carved on the thrones back and
arms, and a small red pillow is on the seat. Wielding a golden hammer, King
Newtonson sits imperiously on a throne.
You see a single exit leading west.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
sc
Pupil Xailere
 Sex   : Male      Race    : Viscanti
 Level  : 15 (50%)    Rank    : Stalwart
 Health : 990/990    Endurance : 3850/3850
 Mana  : 660/900    Willpower : 3103/3400
 Ego   : 110/810    Reserves  : 0%
 Karma  : 7%
You stand tall as a proud citizen of the Mighty Dominion of Magnagora.
You have reached the rank of 'Serf' in your city.
You are a Freshmen Novice in the Geomancers.
You are a member of the Gourmonds Cooking Cartel.
You are a Vagrant in the Fellowship of Explorers
You are a member of the clan called 'The Black Soil Conclave.'
You are 16 years old.
You were born on the 12th of Kiani, 106 years after the Coming of Estarra.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3109w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3115w elrxdb-
cast stoneskin
You must regain equilibrium first.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3115w elrxdb-
Why? D:
Stangmar2005-07-14 21:58:04
It's not invisible. In your prompt, notice the capital S? That's your balance for the Superstratus channel. the lower case s is for substratus, and the i is for id. the S disappeared because you used the Superstratus channel. You can't move or use moves that require equilibrium or balance until you regain balance on your channels.
Richter2005-07-14 22:01:43
990h, 660m, 210e, 0p, 3850en, 3141w eSlrxdb-
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
Edit: Ack, ninja'ed
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
Edit: Ack, ninja'ed
Arundel2005-07-14 22:13:47
I think the issue is that the "e" remains. I was a bit confused about that the first time.
Richter2005-07-14 22:25:14
QUOTE(Arundel @ Jul 14 2005, 02:13 PM)
I think the issue is that the "e" remains. I was a bit confused about that the first time.
152535
I believe that's because of skills that take normal eq vs skills that take S, and there is no distinctive message.
Vesar2005-07-14 23:02:42
There's another issue here. When you lock up a channel, we don't get a message of when that channel balance is "free" again. I know we don't gain the use of the channel after we lock it, but we also don't see when we are able to use our equilibrium again.
The log demonstrates this, as well.
The log demonstrates this, as well.
Shryke2005-07-14 23:04:38
hmmm, look at your prompt maybe?
Unknown2005-07-14 23:04:53
Is this a change from the way things originally worked or was I misunderstanding the whole time? I thought people were complaining about people running in, bursting vessels, and then running out again immediately. So is the no movement part new, or was I wrong?
Shiri2005-07-14 23:06:52
It was added afterwards. It'd be nice for them if the "e" was subtracted and they got messages when the channels unlocked, I guess. Warriors have it with arm balance.
Vesar2005-07-14 23:10:30
I don't know who those last few posts were directed at, but a quick solution to the problem I brought up would be something like this:
990h, 660m, 210e, 0p, 3850en, 3141w eSlrxdb-
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
~Wait the 4 or 8 seconds for channel balance~
You feel your mind settle after locking the SuperStratus channel.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
CODE
990h, 660m, 210e, 0p, 3850en, 3141w eSlrxdb-
psi super biofeedback electric
You create a biofeedback loop within your mind to protect against electric.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
~Wait the 4 or 8 seconds for channel balance~
You feel your mind settle after locking the SuperStratus channel.
990h, 660m, 110e, 0p, 3850en, 3103w elrxdb-
Gwylifar2005-07-14 23:46:22
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jul 14 2005, 07:06 PM)
It was added afterwards. It'd be nice for them if the "e" was subtracted and they got messages when the channels unlocked, I guess. Warriors have it with arm balance.
152550
Actually, no, it's really analogous in that when we use arm balance the "x" doesn't go away because it represents something else. So I can't move if I'm missing l, r, or x, just like he can't move if he's missing S, s, i, or e. Also, the message I get if I try to move is the same whichever of those three I'm missing, just like the message he gets is the same whichever of those four he's missing.
The odd part then is that he doesn't get a "you have recovered balance on your superstratus", the way I get "you have recovered balance on your right arm".
Gaetele2005-07-15 00:14:49
That's the main problem I was having. What Vesar said: When I lock a channel (in this case, Superstratus for biofeedback electric) or what I just did right now (Id for psiarmour), I don't get a message.
It's more of a technical thing, but I don't like it at all D:
It's more of a technical thing, but I don't like it at all D:
Hajamin2005-07-15 06:01:09
You don't get a message for a simple reason, you don't actually get balance back from locking it. Gwylifar already explained why the "e" doesn't go away, I guess we could think of some kind of message for that situation...
Vesar2005-07-15 15:05:36
I think the problem is, we lock the channels, wait for the time we think we would have regained the balance, then try to move or do something else, but we get the "You need to recover equilibrium" message. I understand that we don't have equilibrium and that we -shouldn't- have it, but we are saying that some sort of message would be nice for timing reasons.
Rhysus2005-07-15 15:08:37
Aye...we don't necessarily get the use of the Channel back, but our mind is back in a stable state, allowing us to once again make use of our equilibrium.
Unknown2005-07-15 16:50:22
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Jul 15 2005, 01:01 AM)
I guess we could think of some kind of message for that situation...
152667
I'd really really appreciate it Hajamin.
So for those who don't know (as there seems to be a bit of confusion), here's how Psionic balances work:
- You have three channels, think of them like 3 different equilibrium's ('e').
- If you use one, you can do anything with that channel again until balance is regained (bursting, throatlock, etc).
- If any one of those psionic channels is off balance, you can't use any skills involving 'e' or 'x'. (there's nothing wrong with this, we're not complaining about that)
- If you lock a channel with a persistent skill (psiarmour, biofeedback, etc) the s/S/i vanishes from the prompt and does not return until the channel is unlocked. The problem is, we suffer the same balance loss as a non-locked skill (bursting, throatlock, etc) and have no way of knowing when we are able to use 'e' or 'x' again since the s/S/i won't reappear in the prompt due to the locking.
Imagine yourself trying to use skills while having no e/x ever on the prompt, and no messages when you regain e/x. Sucky eh?