After an arena duel, both participants should have all their defenses reset to what they were before the duel started.

This way people won't be able to abuse it by deffing up for free in the arena, and the loser won't have wasted any herbs or power he spent before entering.

The problem with this, if my memory serves, was something to do with having to make a second file for characters or something, so that it had something to read from.

I THINK Hajamin said the lag it would cause would be totally not worth it.

#FO @defs {#ADDI temp_defs %i}

I seriously can't see how something similar to that, with actual Rapture code, would lag too much. If everyone in the realms was in the arena at once, maybe.

There's a lot more to the state of a character than just @defs.

Which is why I didn't say save the whole character, but just the defs.

Well, I assume Haji-mon knows what he's talking about. I mean, heck, if shops can lag the game, I've no doubt that pre-arena defs can.

Never lagged Achaea

Too many people walking and talking lags Achaea, so I have no doubt that the arena can lag it, too.

Most people that abuse the arena for defenses are probably just letting the spar timeout anyway. That way both of them get to keep everything.

You don't get your defs back after the arena in Achaea, so I've no idea what you're talking about Ceres.

Defences are very complicated, and backing them up, particularly in the case of temporary defences, would be more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention using up a whole lot of memory.

And Guido, you can remove your signature, you're not getting your account back.

Oh. Guess this isn't going to be so temporary after all. I'll just grab the signature off it, then.

(Mind telling me why? I just wanted my sweet, delicious postcount)

Because it was suspended for a reason, and because I believe for you a fresh start is absolutely the best thing you can have. However, this isn't on the topic (which admittedly is pretty much finished now).

Actually, now I'm kind of curious what all goes into a def. I'd have thought there'd be a simple way to get name and duration, and only really need that to save it.

Well, the main problem is that you seem to think there's a list of defs attached to each person, there isn't, they're not all just plonked into one place.

Something that I'm sure makes a lot of sense when you actually look at the code, but doesn't seem very logical when you think about it from a simplistic viewpoint.

Yes, and it works well for most things we have to do with defences, just not for this. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Estarra has never expressed any wish to me that it be so, and I'm certainly not going to push for it as I see very little point and a great deal of work.

Hence she tried to explain the difficulty a little .

Those that abuse it, will be punished when they are caught(and they will be).

The problem with it is, as Lisaera said, defs aren't just a list of what you have. Some of the more complex ones would be close to impossible to save.

Aww. That's too bad. It's just that Lusternia has things like power and enchantments that are used up, and it is a little annoying logging on, deffing up, sparring someone and losing, and having to spend all of that power and or enchantments again. I know you could def up in the arena, but that takes up sparring time and you may not know immediately that you want to spar.

It probably makes tons of sense if you can look at the code. I figured since you can do DEF already, there had to be some way of getting a list already.