It would be interesting (EDIT: cool) to have imps and cherubs wander ito Faethorn, but its a bit far, and we could easily turn them back into fae without the cities being able to do anything about it. But pixies often travel from Faethorn to the prime Seren and get lost - what about a few imps, charubs and fae wandering out of their relms into the elemental planes? That would make it easier to turn fae into cherubs/imps or vice versa.

Then again, the fae were scared of entering Glomdoring before it was a commune so why would they go wandering about Elemental Planes?

This term is affectionately called "fence-sitting", and it sounds like you don't -really- have a stance on the issue (I could be wrong though!).


I'm going to disagree here though. Transversing the planes takes a good bit of planar knowledge, and I can't see those creatures learning lots of planar, and going "la la la *transverse ethereal* *wander* la la la".

I have to counter-disagree. As Jitwix noted, the pixies already do cross the planes by accident. I think it's quite reasonable to assume that extraplanar creatures might be able to do naturally what we have to struggle to learn.

Isn't it true that a guardian can still call an angel or demon from Prime, it just costs more? If so, that goes to suggest they can also cross planes natively.

It always costs 5 power, no matter the plane.

Although I was kidding with the original comment, it might make it a little more doable to have occasional cherubs/imps wander onto the elemental planes, like wild fae wander into Faethorn.

Do wild fae call for help when they are taken to the Supernals/Demon Lords? Or is that just the cherubs and imps?

Fae in the Serenwilde only call for help when attacked. Fae in Faethorn never call for help. Only the Fae Knights.

Fae being able to somehow wander across one plane that is directly connected to their realm (perhaps using the archways for all we know) is very different from happening to wander across two entirely different planes, especially since unlike the archways there is no easily used method of crossing planes for cosmic, especially water to Celestia where you have to find the whirlpool and and then wander down the river. But not only that, being able to transverse an an ethereal or elemental rift or archway, is vastly easier then using a nexus to do so. Then add in the whole personality of the creatures, I personally would think of a fae as a naturally curious creature that might wander around exploring in curiosity including through a elemental archway if they can figure out how, but I don't really see any of the variations of angels or demons having the same to leave their own.

And I don't know about angels for celestians, but demons are given to the nihilist to use as they will by impressing the demon lords enough to allow it, for all we know its by the power of the supernal/demon lord that sends the angel/demon to the celestian/nihilist, which might be why the power cost from a ic point of view, or the power is from having to pull them out of their native planes. But in short, I personally just don't see imps/cherubs wandering around ethereal

Gwylifar is referring to the pixies who cross from Ethereal Serenwilde to Prime Serenwilde, through a nexus. Cherubs and imps aren't mischievious and childlike enough to occasionally 'run away' to the nearby Elemental plane?

I always viewed Imps more like cowardly little creatures that huddled together around bigger, stronger demons for protection. Not necessarily mischievous.

But I can see where you're coming from, and this would certainly help to foster both off-plane conflict and hostilities between communes/cities, so I have to say I'd like to see this idea implemented.

Not really personally, but elemental plane is a whole lot more likely to me then them wandering their way all the way down to the ethereal plane as was being said

My point is is that its too far to get all the way to ethereal and it would be a bit unbalanced and easy for forestals to turn them back into fae, and therefore it would be better if they only went halfway, to the elemntal planes, and the fae also met them halfway.



Yeah! Cities are bad. Ask Tree. Cities are dangeous. Ask White Hart. The cities and communes don't have to be enemies, but I think there should be some more tension between them. Their philosopies are very different. Celest is only pitched against Magnagora, and Serenwilde against Glomdoring, so its natural that two would team up against the other two.

Would a reason besides 'mischievousness' be necessary for them to pop into the elemental planes? Perhaps the fae could be looking for things - perhaps small magical objects found only on elemental planes like water and earth crystals.