Shorlen2005-09-08 18:57:37
Just to point this out - traditionally, books were made out of things besides paper.
parch·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pärchmnt)
n.
1. The skin of a sheep or goat prepared as a material on which to write or paint.
2. A written text or drawing on a sheet of this material.
3. Paper made in imitation of this material.
vel·lum ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vlm)
n.
1. A fine parchment made from calfskin, lambskin, or kidskin and used for the pages and binding of books.
2. A work written or printed on this parchment.
3. A heavy off-white fine-quality paper resembling this parchment.
Neither of these require wood - bookbinders, design things that don't use paper, and thus don't require wood! Leather, sheep, and cow are commodities too.
parch·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pärchmnt)
n.
1. The skin of a sheep or goat prepared as a material on which to write or paint.
2. A written text or drawing on a sheet of this material.
3. Paper made in imitation of this material.
vel·lum ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vlm)
n.
1. A fine parchment made from calfskin, lambskin, or kidskin and used for the pages and binding of books.
2. A work written or printed on this parchment.
3. A heavy off-white fine-quality paper resembling this parchment.
Neither of these require wood - bookbinders, design things that don't use paper, and thus don't require wood! Leather, sheep, and cow are commodities too.
Manjanaia2005-09-08 19:44:47
And the cookie goes to!
Unknown2005-09-08 20:02:00
Whichever admin approves a divine based on this. <3
Shorlen2005-09-08 20:18:11
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 8 2005, 04:02 PM)
Whichever admin approves a divine based on this. <3
182266
Do you mean Design? o_O
Unknown2005-09-08 20:19:41
Quiet, I just woke up.
Shorlen2005-09-08 20:42:52
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 8 2005, 04:19 PM)
Quiet, I just woke up.
182281
Woodless divine made out of books!
Well, I sent this to Nejii:
QUOTE
a leafy pamphlet of ethereal vellum
Unfurled upon the floor, a pamphlet begs to be read.
Stylized leaves flow about the corners of this pamphlet to curl along the fringes with a verdant sheen. The vellum, carefully cured and treated with a powder wrought of finely crushed moonstones, sparkles in the available light, a small mimicry of the silver misted ethereal forests.
leather 1 greentint 1 moonstone 1
Unfurled upon the floor, a pamphlet begs to be read.
Stylized leaves flow about the corners of this pamphlet to curl along the fringes with a verdant sheen. The vellum, carefully cured and treated with a powder wrought of finely crushed moonstones, sparkles in the available light, a small mimicry of the silver misted ethereal forests.
leather 1 greentint 1 moonstone 1
We'll see if it's approved.
Sylphas2005-09-08 20:48:50
The vellum scroll they started us with is made from wood.
Shorlen2005-09-08 21:13:00
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 8 2005, 04:48 PM)
The vellum scroll they started us with is made from wood.
182295
Vellum can refer to paper treated in such a way as to look like actual vellum, from what I understand.
Nyla2005-09-08 21:48:14
Cant you design books that dont use paper... like with silk or cloth..
Shamarah2005-09-08 21:52:45
I thought this topic said "wordless books" at first.
Shorlen2005-09-08 22:19:31
QUOTE(nyla @ Sep 8 2005, 05:48 PM)
Cant you design books that dont use paper... like with silk or cloth..
182322
Pages made of silk or cloth aren't going to hold ink well.
Nyla2005-09-08 22:24:06
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 8 2005, 05:19 PM)
Pages made of silk or cloth aren't going to hold ink well.
182333
So long as you dont was it with soap ink on cloth stays for a while
Shorlen2005-09-08 23:32:54
QUOTE(nyla @ Sep 8 2005, 06:24 PM)
So long as you dont was it with soap ink on cloth stays for a while
182334
Hmm, I was under the impression it didn't last terribly long with medieval inks on cloth.
Unknown2005-09-08 23:39:24
It'll bleed through the pages.
Nyla2005-09-08 23:42:08
Magic ink
Unknown2005-09-09 00:37:15
Only bookbinders use magic ink.
Let's um.. just stick with wood pages. Leather to an extent, but.. wood.
Let's um.. just stick with wood pages. Leather to an extent, but.. wood.
Shorlen2005-09-09 00:41:00
QUOTE(KidHendrix @ Sep 8 2005, 08:37 PM)
Only bookbinders use magic ink.Â
Let's um.. just stick with wood pages. Leather to an extent, but.. wood.
Let's um.. just stick with wood pages. Leather to an extent, but.. wood.
182432
Wood pages didn't exist for a very long time - before that, various skins were used. Why can't we use skins if we can use wood? I'm trying to look for ways to help out with the wood shortage - I don't see how this is a bad one.
Unknown2005-09-09 00:51:02
Leather's a skin.
I don't see the problem with other skins as pages, but this just covers up the initial issue of there not being enough wood (Unless the Druids begin a harvest plan).
I could scribble a few cloth-page designs for my cartel since you asked though.
I don't see the problem with other skins as pages, but this just covers up the initial issue of there not being enough wood (Unless the Druids begin a harvest plan).
I could scribble a few cloth-page designs for my cartel since you asked though.
Shorlen2005-09-09 01:11:59
QUOTE(KidHendrix @ Sep 8 2005, 08:51 PM)
Leather's a skin.Â
I don't see the problem with other skins as pages, but this just covers up the initial issue of there not being enough wood (Unless the Druids begin a harvest plan).Â
I could scribble a few cloth-page designs for my cartel since you asked though.
I don't see the problem with other skins as pages, but this just covers up the initial issue of there not being enough wood (Unless the Druids begin a harvest plan).Â
I could scribble a few cloth-page designs for my cartel since you asked though.
182436
And I know leather is a skin, but it's skin that's been treated specially, so it isn't the same as requiring the corpse of a cow.
Archthron2005-09-09 01:31:23
Are reeds a commodity? You could make papyrus, if so. But I don't think they are...