Starting out as a newbie

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Unknown2005-09-15 15:39:23
Hi,i just started playing this MUD,and i was wondering if anyone had some advice?Im a visconti in the nhilists,level 7.Currently still in the newton caverns.

-Do i need/should open the portals in the caverns?

-Until what level should i stay there?

-What are bent rivets/jar of gunk for?

-How long do corpses/quest items have before they decay?

-Is there some way to have a cilient map?Constantly checking between the cilient and the map on the website,then checking with QL to see whether im in the correct spot has gotten kind of....frustrating.

-Should i be worried about getting gold/essence/equipment yet?Ive basically been 1-hitting up to guards in the caverns(havent seen anything harder)

-Is there a point to the clunketly clunker?
Richter2005-09-15 16:12:43
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 07:39 AM)
Hi,i just started playing this MUD,and i was wondering if anyone had some advice?Im a visconti in the nhilists,level 7.Currently still in the newton caverns.

-Do i need/should open the portals in the caverns?

They allow you to access more of the newbie area, and there are two "honors" quests out there that everyone can see that you've done, and that are no longer accessable after you're no longer a newbie.

-Until what level should i stay there?

You get kicked out after 21, most of us can no longer enter.

-What are bent rivets/jar of gunk for?

Try GREETing the npcs around there, and put on that thinking cap!

-How long do corpses/quest items have before they decay?

It varies. Newbie quest items decay fairly quickly so that people can do the quests, corpses usually last a bit longer.

-Is there some way to have a cilient map?Constantly checking between the cilient and the map on the website,then checking with QL to see whether im in the correct spot has gotten kind of....frustrating.

There certainly is. I use the Zmud client, which is free for the basic version, $25 or so for the updated one (or jack a copy from a friend). Maps can be made for this, and Thorgal has an -excellent- one for sale for 25cr. I would be lost without it, for the most part.

-Should i be worried about getting gold/essence/equipment yet?Ive basically been 1-hitting up to guards in the caverns(havent seen anything harder)

Start looking into that kind of stuff. You should be able to come out of the caverns with a fair amount of gold, doing essence quests for your city/commune get you good experience/karma/gold usually, and equipment is always good to have.

-Is there a point to the clunketly clunker?

Yes.
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Ekard2005-09-15 16:19:28
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 05:39 PM)
Hi,i just started playing this MUD,and i was wondering if anyone had some advice?Im a visconti in the nhilists,level 7.Currently still in the newton caverns.

-Do i need/should open the portals in the caverns?
If you open them you will b able to go to Lolliprin, from there you can get to top of Smoke Mountain.

-Until what level should i stay there?
If you get on Smoke Mountain, its greeat place to get gold and exp, i would sit there until level 21, then you wont be able to go to cavern, Lolliprin or Smoke Mountain.

-What are bent rivets/jar of gunk for?
You may find out when you get on Lolliprin.
It's good to know that there are 2 honors quests.
Saviuor of Gnomes and Hero of Finks.

-How long do corpses/quest items have before they decay?
It depends from corpses, but those in newton caverns around 15-30 minutes, but i'm not sure it was almoust year when i was there.

-Is there some way to have a cilient map?Constantly checking between the cilient and the map on the website,then checking with QL to see whether im in the correct spot has gotten kind of....frustrating.
I'm using map from website, i saved it on my comp opened in ACDSee and set always on top  biggrin.gif  So i have my client and map visible in same time.

-Should i be worried about getting gold/essence/equipment yet?Ive basically been 1-hitting up to guards in the caverns(havent seen anything harder)
I would suggest you to get as much gold as you can on Smoke Mountain, you should be able to get around 20k there and then on level 20-21 you should start looking for equipment, exploring world and learn some more things, ask on guild they will help you and tell you what you should know.

-Is there a point to the clunketly clunker?
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ninja.gif Richter
Unknown2005-09-15 16:24:09
Hi,i just started playing this MUD,and i was wondering if anyone had some advice?Im a visconti in the nhilists,level 7.Currently still in the newton caverns.

They allow you to access more of the newbie area, and there are two "honors" quests out there that everyone can see that you've done, and that are no longer accessable after you're no longer a newbie.

Does it matter which karma quest i do?

Where is smoke mountain?

Try GREETing the npcs around there, and put on that thinking cap!

All the NPCs dont seem to mention the jar/rivet.....i only found mucka/fink/cranky that mentions the widgets,chains and gnome corpses so far.


There certainly is. I use the Zmud client, which is free for the basic version, $25 or so for the updated one (or jack a copy from a friend). Maps can be made for this, and Thorgal has an -excellent- one for sale for 25cr. I would be lost without it, for the most part.

My experience with cilients like that seem to always have problems one way or the other......

Start looking into that kind of stuff. You should be able to come out of the caverns with a fair amount of gold, doing essence quests for your city/commune get you good experience/karma/gold usually, and equipment is always good to have.

Is there a better way to get gold other than just giving mucka corpses for 1 gold?It looks like it would take a while to do this(killing gnomes,getting corpses then rushing to mucka before they decay....).Can you clarify on essence quests?Im still not sure how to donate the corpses for essence.And what equipment should i be getting?
Ekard2005-09-15 16:32:45
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 06:24 PM)

Does it matter which karma quest i do?

You get karma when you are doing some quests, not all quests give karma.


Where is smoke mountain?
Look around when you will be on Lolliprin.

All the NPCs dont seem to mention the jar/rivet.....i only found mucka/fink/cranky that mentions the widgets,chains and gnome corpses so far.
You have not been on Lolliprin yet.

My experience with cilients like that seem to always have problems one way or the other......
I'm using zMUD too. It realy isnt so hard and it have built in mappet to, but as i alredy sad i'm using ACDSee to look at map.

Is there a better way to get gold other than just giving mucka corpses for 1 gold?It looks like it would take a while to do this(killing gnomes,getting corpses then rushing to mucka before they decay....).
Selling corpse in Newton/Lolliprin/Smoke Mountain is best gold for you i think. On Smoke mountain they pay 45gp for corpse.
Leading Pilgrims on Avechna Peak could be also good way to get exp and gold, but i would suggest you to wait until level 21 with it.

Can you clarify on essence quests?Im still not sure how to donate the corpses for essence.And what equipment should i be getting?
you should ask in guild about those, GNT is guild novice channel if you dont know alredy

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Unknown2005-09-15 16:41:21
Hmm i thought you said there were 2 types of karma quest?Or is honour quest a different thing?

Cranky gives 1 karma per widget,i thought finko would do the same with chains?

where is Lolliprin and how do i get there?Portals?Or from cavern?
Ekard2005-09-15 16:47:07
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 06:41 PM)
Hmm i thought you said there were 2 types of karma quest?Or is honour quest a different thing?
When you complete a honour quest a line about it will show up in your HONORS.
Like:

Veradin, Sir Ekard, Shakiniel's Charge (Male Igasho).
He is 49 years old, having been born on the 9th of Estar, 78 years after the
Coming of Estarra.
He is ranked 13th in Lusternia.
He is an extremely credible character.
He is an Earl in the Righteous Grand Duchy of New Celest.
He is Shakiniel's Charge in the Paladins.
He holds the position of the Counsel of Justice in the Paladins.
He holds the position of a Starknight in the Paladins.
He is a member of the Dragonscale Forging Cartel.
He is a Cosmic Wayfarer in the Fellowship of Explorers
He is a Student of Honour in the Divine Order of Hajamin, the Golden Lord.
He is a member of the clan called 'The Grand Celestial Army.'
He is a member of the clan called 'Aspirants of Honour.'
He is a member of the clan called 'The Armies of Light.'
He is a member of the clan called 'The Ethereal Star Alliance.'
He is a member of the clan called 'The Star Council.'
He is a member of the clan called 'Methrenton's Circuit.'
He is a member of the clan called 'The Black Anvil Forging Cartel.'
He is a mentor and able to take on proteges.
His motto: 'Sure thing!'
He is considered to be approximately equal to your might.
He is a founder of the Peulus family.
He aided Ciarrus in sealing Castle Djarrakh for all time.
He helped seal the gorgogs behind the dimensional barriers.
He passed the challenges of the Tosha Monastery.
He survived the horror of Kethuru when creation was threatened.
He has scribed the tales of old Celest into the Tome of Remembrance.
He is the Matchmaker, having brought lovers together at the Chateau d'Amour.
In Acknor, he helped the orcs raise a new chieftain.
He solved the mysterious murder at Stewart Mansion.
He is an Honorary Shepherd of the Rocks.
He has earned the title of Hero to the Finks.
He has earned the title of Savior to the Gnomes.


Cranky gives 1 karma per widget,i thought finko would do the same with chains?

where is Lolliprin and how do i get there?Portals?Or from cavern?
In Newton caverns there are two portals Iron Portal and Golden POrtal, you have to help to repair them, activate them and enter them. They lead to Lolliprin.

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Richter2005-09-15 16:53:57
Another helpful thing for the maps is an interface program called windowblinds. This changes the whole look of windows, and one of the features allows you to "pin" any window you'd like on top. So, you can view a map from the website while playing Lusternia, and you wouldn't have to click back and forth.
Unknown2005-09-15 17:16:08
I must repair the portals to get the honors thing?Or is it something else?
Richter2005-09-15 17:18:08
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 09:16 AM)
I must repair the portals to get the honors thing?Or is it something else?
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That's just the beginning of two somewhat long quests.
Sylphas2005-09-15 17:36:05
Windowblinds uses a lot of resources to pretty up your system and pin windows. I'm sure there's an easier way.
Ekard2005-09-15 17:45:17
Yea. Like using ACDSee smile.gif

Richter2005-09-15 17:50:55
Whoa, nice, what is that?

And is windowblinds really that much of a drag on my system?
Ekard2005-09-15 17:54:59
Its zMUD in backgraound and ACDSee is program that i'm using to browse image files. It can read almoust all image type of files.
http://www.acdsystems.com/products/acdsee/

Latest version is 8 and i'm still using 3.0 heh. But i dont need better.
Unknown2005-09-16 16:07:58
Okay after asking around looks like i cant do essence quests yet......i need to be able to kill stuff on elemental plane of earth then get the essence from the corpses.

And ACDsee doesnt look like its free?

Btw can anyone tell me what these messages mean :

"A great clash occurs from the quarters of the finks..."(wheres that anyway?)

"A moan is heard from the gnome caverns..."

"The sound of chains snapping echoes throughout the caverns..."
Hajamin2005-09-16 16:56:29
All over the place you will see messages, some of them hint to quests and others are just "flavour".
Unknown2005-09-16 17:31:42
Okay i found out the first is a sign of the portal occuring,the last 2 are,I THINK,signs of the portal breaking.Can anyone confirm that please?

And.....what do i need to give to the gnome explorers?
Ekard2005-09-16 18:06:18
QUOTE(Question @ Sep 16 2005, 07:31 PM)

And.....what do i need to give to the gnome explorers?
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QUOTE(Question @ Sep 15 2005, 05:39 PM)

-What are bent rivets/jar of gunk for?

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Unknown2005-09-16 18:59:14
So....both?How do i get rivets if im in loli?Does portals allow me to go back and forth loli/newton?
Ekard2005-09-16 19:02:16
Yes portal allow you to go back too. And i didnt say both. Try to figure it yourself.