Along Ruby Road. (road).
The corrosiveness of the taint sickens the land. The fossilized remains of
Gregori are here. A wiccan broom floats here, vibrating with energy. There are
2 gruesome scalps here. A bloody ear lies here festering on the ground. There
are 2 blank rune stones here. A firmly packed snowball rolls about on the
ground here. The fossilized remains of Yuniko are here. Sitting on its
haunches, a bloodhound rests here. There are 8 sand cobras here. Alger is here.
He wields a baleful rapier of darkened steel in each hand.
You see exits leading east, northwest, and in.
You spring a trap!!
The ground suddenly falls away from beneath you and you go tumbling into a pit,
but thankfully something soft and spongy breaks your fall--Holly Nil, it's a
pile of snakes!
3635h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-

A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
A sand cobra opens a gash in your arm with a skillful blow.
A sand cobra opens a gash in your arm with a skillful blow.
3146h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-

A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
A sand cobra opens a gash in your arm with a skillful blow.
A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-
2678h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdbp-

You are no longer stunned.
2893h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdb-

A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
2751h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdb-
What do you want to eat?
2751h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdb-
You must have two legs to do that.
2751h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdb-
You take out some salve and quickly rub it on your legs.
The bones in your right leg mend.
2751h, 6554m, 4311e, 10p, 22779w exkdb-


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It is nothing short of abuse to continually find ways to put more 5 snakes in a pit.

Hehehe....I'm vaugely amused with Narsrim complaining about people exploiting things....

What bugs have I exploited?

Let's look at the matter at hand instead of jumping on the defensive and accusing Narsrim of bug abuse. There should be FIVE snakes in any pit, or am I mistaken? Clearly it's a problem. Pits are buggy -period-. I got caught in one and couldn't climb out. At all. After I died, I conglutinated at Mother but was still in the pit. Something needs to be looked at.

You speak as though that might pardon anyone, Ixchilgal, that it might make it acceptable.

You will note that six cobras hit me before the 1.5-2 second stun ended. This clearly indicates that the room just didn't have lots of cobras poised for different directions. That one pit had 8 in it.

Heh, try being tackled from one snakepit into another.

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Ruby Road. (road).
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. A
sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. There are
5 sand cobras here. Alger is here. He wields a baleful rapier of darkened steel
in each hand. Servant of the Lith, Borca, Caster of Stone is here, shrouded. He
wields a twisted staff in his left hand and a large darksteel round shield in
his right.
You see exits leading southeast, west, and in (closed door).
You spring a trap!!
The ground suddenly falls away from beneath you and you go tumbling into a pit,
but thankfully something soft and spongy breaks your fall--Holly Nil, it's a
pile of snakes!
6187h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18671en, 21138w elrxkdbp-
A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
6098h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21150w elrxkdbp-
A sand cobra opens a gash in your arm with a skillful blow.
5952h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdbp-
You bleed 27 health.
5925h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5925h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
5925h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdbp-
You are no longer stunned.
5925h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdb-
A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
5809h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdb-
5809h, 2207m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21145w elrxkdb-
Spreading your arms wide, you spin clockwise and visualize a circle of
protection. A shimmering white orb springs up around you.
5809h, 2177m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21115w lrxkdb-
5809h, 2177m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21115w lrxkdb-
A sand cobra hurls himself against your shield in a futile attempt to harm you.
A sand cobra hurls himself against your shield in a futile attempt to harm you.
5809h, 2177m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21115w lrxkdb-
In a pit at Ruby Road. (road).
There are 5 sand cobras here.
5809h, 2177m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21127w lrxkdb-
A sand cobra hurls himself against your shield in a futile attempt to harm you.
5809h, 2177m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21127w lrxkdb-
A sand cobra hurls himself against your shield in a futile attempt to harm you.
5809h, 2154m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w lrxkdb-
Alger razes your aura of rebounding with a baleful rapier of darkened steel.
Sent- Smoke 121520 (FAELEAF)
5809h, 2154m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w lrxkdb-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
5809h, 2154m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w lrxkdb-
Alger razes your magical shield with a baleful rapier of darkened steel.
SHIELD RAZED!!!
5809h, 2154m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w lrxkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
6118h, 2229m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdb-
A sand cobra slashes you viciously.
6001h, 2229m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdb-
You bleed 7 health.
5994h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdb-
5994h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdb-
A sand cobra slashes Rashidat viciously.
A sand cobra slashes Rashidat viciously.
5994h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdb-
Alger tackles your legs and attempts to carry you off to the southeast.
MOVED!!!
He succeeds and carries you, knocking you to the ground.
In a pit at Along Ruby Road. (road).
Smoke curling from her nostrils, a night mare paws impatiently at the black
clouds that roil beneath her hooves. A huge archdemon looms here, surrounded by
black mist. The fossilized remains of Gregori are here. A wiccan broom floats
here, vibrating with energy. There are 2 gruesome scalps here. There are 2
blank rune stones here. A firmly packed snowball rolls about on the ground
here. The fossilized remains of Yuniko are here. There are 5 sand cobras here.
5994h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21123w elrxkdbp-
A sand cobra rears up, and then spits a stream of venom into your face. You
feel your eyes begin to burn as the dark liquid sinks in.
A sand cobra sinks its fangs into your flesh, injecting you with venom.
You feel woozy and fall down.
A sand cobra wraps around your leg and begins to squeeze tightly.
5635h, 2232m, 3955e, 10p, 18675en, 21135w elrxkdbp-
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
---

Tangled thicket.
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey.
Reaching up as high as the eye can see looms the awesome presence of a living
totem. A mature birch tree stands proudly here. Hackles risen, a fierce
timberwolf prowls about here. Mushrooms are growing here in a perfect circle.
You see exits leading east and west.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p exk-
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p exk-You tug upon the aether strands around you, searching for one that connects to
the Moonhart Mother Tree.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p exk-
You tug upon the aether strands around you, searching for one that connects to
the Moonhart Mother Tree.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p exk-
You teleport along the aether strands to the Moonhart Mother Tree.
You step out of your defensive fighting stance.
In a pit at The Moonhart Mother Tree.
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey.
Towering high above is the Moonhart Mother Tree, stretching her enormous
branches heavenwards.
3420h, 4356m, 4791e, 10p exk-


O.o

If I implied such, I apologize. I just found it very amusing, is all.

That said! Sure, it's a bug. Fix it. But who's to say it was 'exploiting' the bug, per se? Who's to say the person who set it up just wasn't paying attention, and accidently put down 8, instead of 5? Or that they don't have a system that's set up to keep putting them down, until they're no longer able to?

Sure, either one could have been avoided, but since Narsrim's only provided one example, an outside observer would tend to assume it's an isolated instance, and Narsrim is just being...well, Narsrim.

I realize you are unaware of how the skill works. The max you can put down is five. The ab scroll says this. Alger has continually gone out of his way to find a method around this to exploit it. Alger has a good system. Alger knows what he is doing. Furthermore, it happened a couple times in Rockholm in various pits.

You cannot just drop 8. You have to do the normal five and then do something "special" to get the others down.

Oh just perhaps using conclave to get around village distortion, monoliths and any other form of keeping someone down

Was that a bug? Was it ever decided it was a bug?




Does that say all? Does it?

No, it doesn't say it all. There are a lot of things that are on the edge... such as starting a moonbeam, moving to attack, and letting it drag you back (same with hunter tracking), as well as conclave... things that Narsrim says "aren't a bug, so I can use them all I want".

Whether that's true or not, they seem like bugs, and thus he gets labelled. *shrug*

You confuse the words "bug" with "design."

When something is opperating as coded, however, it offers something that is perhaps overpowered, the issue is design. If you want to talk about Conclave, Beam, etc... you are talking design.

When something is not opperating as coded, the term to use is bug. Snake pits are coded to hold 5 snakes. If you find a way to get around this, you are exploiting a problem in the code somewhere that allows this.

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Although using abilities that are overpowered by design may get you classified as being cheap, you are still allowed to use them

Using abilities that are bugged or exploiting a bug, however, is definately abuse.

Did you clarify with Alger?

Alger told me that no pit had more than 5 snakes in it. Thus, I posted this log to clearly show that such was not the case.

Is that meant to be 'holy'?

Lusternia is so riddled with bugs and typos.

It upsets me.

There's a little command known to a select few of us to help remedy and aliviate this problem. The command is TYPO, and thus to I grant unto you the power to solve such issues, by the powers invested in me by HELP TYPO.

Oh then please leave.



Anyway My favourite Snakepit is the one underwater. I didn't get hit by it but from what I heard it was impposibe to get out of having screwed up arms underwater unable to smoke to cure it. Can't climb out.

Although how you can put a pit in the middle of the ocean is beyond me.