All Celestians who die on Celestia should conglutinate. All Magnagorans who die on Nil should conglutinate. Dying and having to pray because you were defending and didn't have trans planar is just ridiculous.

No, not really. I really don't want it to end up that everywhere people could possibly fight will conglutinate people, it makes actually getting the skill next to worthless, and trivializes combat.

Conglutinating when you're raiding isn't useful? Conglutinating when you die on Astral isn't useful?

I find it silly that we're expected to defend but pray if we fail.

Uhm, everyone can learn to conglutinate...both the attackers and defenders have to pray when they die and don't have that ability. While I can really understand how frustrating it can be to die while defending I don't think that you should automatically conglutinate as a defender on either celestia or nil. I mean when it gets implemented, where will it end? Then the communes would demand the same for Faethorn...in the end everyone will conglutinate everywhere....sounds a bit silly to me.

I wouldn't mind that really

then you would have like no repercussions for getting killed making it like a constant ffa which would cause so much crap it's unreal. I went dow about 4 levels from fighting and praying so oh well happens. If you don't want to die don't fight or don't fight people you know your going to lose to very simple really.

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~

This sounds like a couple of skills I know of. God, what are they?

Shamarah,

Excellent idea! All Serens conglutinate in Ethereal Serenwilde. All Glomdorians conglutinate in Ethereal Glomdoring (the home of the Avatars). I think it is very much a fair request for the same to apply on Celestia/Nil to the cities.

Furthermore, I think it would help encourage people to take a stance to defend. There are times when the defending team has no chance. It sucks, but I think it is really sad when someone has to say to themselves: I really want to help, I do... but I can raise that Supernals 10x faster than I can regain the experience I lost.

Conglutination, imo, is the answer to group combat in Lusternia. The defending team should always have some advantage.

Better yet! A new nexus power (1000p - same as if the supernal/demon lord died):

Nihilists or Celestines may empower their respective cosmic plane to grant conglutination to respective citizens and strip conglutination from all city enemies.

I'm now up to like 6-8 demon lords kills... and to be honest, I think this would be so fair. I mean I go raid Nil and my first thought is:

1. I kill the demon lord, yay
2. I die, I lose a mere 1-3% - yay

There is absolutely NO risk for the attacking parting if they have conglutinate.

I agree with Narsrim...

WTF?

Anyway, yeah, an expensive nexus power than allows conglutination to all citizens for awhile would be very nice. Wouldn't work on Astral, of course.

Shouldn't work on astral, and do away with the conglutination in Influencing

So I basically would've payed for 300 credits for a skill only that that skill would be easily stripped by three days of hunting (at most) a respective elemental plane?

No. That would be just...ack. And it would reduce raiding not a lot, it would destroy raiding. They might as well just make the Supernals/Demon Lords invincible, that wouldn't decrease raiding more.

Allow us to place guards and statues around our Demon Lords/Supernals

~12 hours of hunting at 2 power per essence can net 1000 power. Don't need three days- need even less if you have more sand!

It would have to be expensive, short-lived, and perhaps not as effective as regular conglutiation.

Meh, there's 41 essence to gather? Hmm...oh right, maybe both planes together. Or even on one plane and I just don't hunt good enough. Still, makes my point even more valid.


And Shiro...guards and statues don't help much, they could still be attacked and killed.

It isn't like you do anything in a Demon Lord/Supernal raid so I don't know where you get off commenting that it would or would not stop raids. I'd still raid. Aesyra has to freaking burn 500k essence everytime she dies... she still raids.

And could we please cease the "but I paid money for it" excuse. I paid money for spores in Wicca. They don't work on monoliths now. I learned to cope. You can too.

As I said, there should be a DISADVANTAGE for the raiding party and an ADVANTAGE for the defending team. This is present in Ethereal Serenwilde/Ethereal Glomdoring. It is not, however, found in Celestia or Nil.

I think making it so the enemy must pray if they die (at a cost of 1000p per hour) and that the defenders can all conglutinate is damn fair.

Really good. Only because I don't do doesn't mean I cant...ooooohhh....and WAIT....I actually defended a lot! Oh yeah, mighty Narsrim justm ight not have noticed me with his nose so high.


Whatever. We could make a bet. 800 credits. As soon as that thing comes into effect, there'll be at MOST 1 raid in a month. And that one half hearted and stops after the first death.




Oh, and sorry if I want to have the skills I payed money for, others didn't but that's their hard work and I admire that. But we aren't talking about -spores- now. They still work off monoliths, my friend. You want that conglutinate doesn't work whatsover, that's different.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I said I wouldn't mind if they'd get conglutinate through that skill. That's an advantage for the city for gathering the power needed for it.
And the disadvantage would be for the raiders if Celestia would be -melded- sometimes. It's what was done with Faethorn, why can't Celest do that too?

I paid money to trans druidry, but I can't forest on Earth, Water, or Etherglom. I want this revoked.