"Breaking America's grip on the net"

I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself, but I'm seriously curious on what other people think of it.

While I haven't read it yet, I would like to point out one thing... We made it.

It'd be great if that article discussed what they felt the discernable ramifications of internation control would bring about, albeit I suppose it is just a report of what happened. Oh well, I'm sure more information will be available soon.

By we I assume you mean Al Gore.

He means that USA invented Internet (I think).

Seems like a annoying situation to me, what makes those countries think they have the right to wrest control of anything from the USA. Especially something that we developed, and didn't have to share.

While I disagree with the majority of Daevos' post, I do agree - we developed it to what it is today. They've no right to attempt to take it from us.

Daevos, you forgot that we're supposedly 'a tyrannical evil nation bent on taking over the world'.

I hate people who say that about us. We invented the INTERNET, we invented the COMPUTER, and if China takes over it, then the internet as we know it will be ed.

I don't understand this.

If another country wants to make its own secure internet they have the complete ability to do so.

How can anyone take control of such a wide variety of open source stuff?

We made it, we use it. Others jumped on and decided to use it too. Now they want to take it from us? Get your own, we're not stopping you!

And now the usual Richter analogy:

That's like IRE telling us how to make our own MUD with the rapture engine, and a group of us getting together and trying to take it from Matt!

And the unwelcome answer for many is that it is the US government. In the early days, an enlightened Department of Commerce (DoC) pushed and funded expansion of the internet. And when it became global, it created a private company, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) to run it.

*giggle*

Yeah, um, silly countries. The internet is MINE! I mean, ours... yeah, its Al Gore's .

The USA was responsible for developing damn near every bit of the original IT involved in the internet and computers... The thing I'm wondering is how ANY governmental body thinks they can acctually control something as big, and complicated as the internet... The USA controls part of it, sure, but they don't control all of it, most contries in the world have been trying to regulate things on the internet practically since it came into existence, but they've only met with moderate success...

The best way to set it up would be to form the internet into a seperate neutral governmental body, completely neutral from all current government influences, and make it a cyber-nation of sorts... Its own government, own laws, etc etc... The US having a monopoly on it doesn't work, cuz its a sure thing too many people will have a problem with it, and the US will have a problem with it being in anyone elses hands... Thats just my take on it though... I will say right now that the governments of the world are in danger of making themselves look insanely stupid if they think they can lord over the internet of the world... Their own countrys, sure, but if China trys to dictate what americans can see on the net, they can piss off.

Of course it's a valid question about who should control Internet.

International organization should, that's my opinion.

By your reasoning (to anyone who thinks USA should have ways to shut down the Internet anytime they deem necessary only because they invented it), you should have control over electricity everywhere in the world because Edison invented it. (Now this may not be entirely correct, I'm just pulling this out of my , but you get the idea).

It's just that things become world's benefaction at some point, no matter who invented it.

It might seem silly to many of you but I'm gonna mention it anyway.

It reminds me of the comic book I read lately, Lex Luthor Man of Steel.
He says something like (about Superman) "What if he changes his mind? What if tomorrow he wakes up believing he knows what's best for us? That it's not enough to protect the world when he can rule it? The only safeguard we have against that happening... is his WORD".

And we shall call this nation 01.

So...could I be...King of the Internet?

There is a difference there, Edison is one man. The internet was invented by the US Governement, the Army to be exact.

Personally the US can say at any time, stuff the UN we'll do what we want, which it has done so in the past.

The UN has no jurisdiction over any country as defined in its own constituion (the un's constitution that is) They only kinda ask nicely. So unless the EU can make their own parrallel internet, the US can do whatever the heck it wants.

Personally, I dont give a rats as long as china doesn't get it

Sounds like a good idea to me. There's no real reason for the US to control it anymore, and I really don't see any that would prevent a more equitable arrangement.

I wish we had a more denationalized world government body, though. The UN seems so tainted by the economic superpowers.

I don't see that it could have an impact on most of us anyway, so meh, don't care.

I'd rather it where it is. I have a personal fear of a country like China getting it's fingers in it, honestly. Or France. All <3 to France, but any country that outlaws printings vs the current government is no one I want in control of the Internet.

Nor the U.n. - we all know they're tainted. Not much worse than U.S, though.