Corr2005-10-19 17:51:21
What if everytime you enter your home city/commune or guildhall the game allows you to automaticaly change your clothing and sheather your weapons? Like there is a gaurd at the gates that forces you to wear peaceful looking things.
Xenthos2005-10-19 17:54:55
QUOTE(Corr @ Oct 19 2005, 01:51 PM)
What if everytime you enter your home city/commune or guildhall the game allows you to automaticaly change your clothing and sheather your weapons? Like there is a gaurd at the gates that forces you to wear peaceful looking things.
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Ahh, I'm home! Hm, my weapons are put away... no matter, I'll just go to the alembic and get some potions refilled. Wait, what's this? Narsrim just flowed to me! I have no weapons ready! Yeagh!
Or change that to any moondancer with a wisp who pulls you off into some secluded location.
Corr2005-10-19 18:04:18
Thats what the militant army like players are for. Soldiers and guards obviously would not be choosing to use that option. Its for us people who don't fight all that much, but do go out of the town and start hunting.
Saran2005-10-19 18:39:28
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 20 2005, 03:54 AM)
Or change that to any moondancer with a wisp who pulls you off into some secluded location.
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huh i always though shadowdancers got wisp aswell
Astraea2005-10-19 18:55:01
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huh i always though shadowdancers got wisp aswell
Yes, but no Shadowdancer would wisp Xenthos and kill him
Richter2005-10-19 18:55:33
I don't get this idea. I always need my weapons on me, and they have a REMOVE and WEAR command, along with WIELD and UNWIELD. Alias them or something.
Saran2005-10-19 18:58:18
QUOTE(Astraea @ Oct 20 2005, 04:55 AM)
Yes, but no Shadowdancer would wisp Xenthos and kill himÂ
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ahh it's all clear now, if a skill is available to both an enemy and friend guild then only the enemy guild is mentioned as opposed to the archetype
Xenthos2005-10-19 18:59:54
QUOTE(Astraea @ Oct 19 2005, 02:55 PM)
Yes, but no Shadowdancer would wisp Xenthos and kill himÂ
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I should hope not!
QUOTE(Corr)
Thats what the militant army like players are for. Soldiers and guards obviously would not be choosing to use that option. Its for us people who don't fight all that much, but do go out of the town and start hunting.
Ah, you weren't calling it an option so much, with guards forcing you to switch. (Not to mention that there aren't many guards at the edge of the forests). Another negative- the Glomdoring itself is not a very friendly place. There are many denizens which will kill you, and even those who might use this feature would find themselves being attacked and have to go about drawing.
I think it'd be simpler to just make an alias to sheathe/remove when you enter, and another alias to draw/wear when you leave. I do understand that game mechanics can make RP that much more enjoyable, but this one's just mostly useless... it doesn't even use balance to sheathe / draw / wear / remove.
Xenthos2005-10-19 19:01:17
QUOTE(Saran @ Oct 19 2005, 02:58 PM)
ahh it's all clear now, if a skill is available to both an enemy and friend guild then only the enemy guild is mentioned as opposed to the archetype
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Uh. Please read what I wrote. The example was someone using wisp to attack me in the Glomdoring. It was used on Shayle yesterday in just this way. The example in no way said that ONLY Moondancers could do it, just that (in the Glomdoring) they're the likely culprits. Same as you won't see a Moondancer wisping and killing people in the Serenwilde.
Edit: Feel free to make your own example, just lift mine and swap the names if you want. It was meant to be from the point of view of someone returning to the Glomdoring forest- I doubt you'd see Narsrim flowing to you and attacking in the Serenwilde, either. Unless I've just missed a lot of extra death senses...
Astraea2005-10-19 19:01:56
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ahh it's all clear now, if a skill is available to both an enemy and friend guild then only the enemy guild is mentioned as opposed to the archetype
Woah..why so abrasive?
He was giving a hypothetical scenario where he (A member of Glomdoring) got attacked by someone (An Enemy). How would that scenario make sense if it were a Shadowdancer? He's not saying Shadowdancer skills shouldn't be nerfed along with Moondancer ones if they are...
You read too much into things.
Richter2005-10-19 19:03:02
To tell you the truth, I don't want to wear armour or carry weapons when not fighting, I want to be wearing something... normal.
But because this is a game, I always have them on/wielded. That's one of the few nessecary evils of the game, because if someone attacks me when I'm not at least somewhat ready, I'm going to instantly die, instead of taking a few seconds to die.
*twiddle*
But because this is a game, I always have them on/wielded. That's one of the few nessecary evils of the game, because if someone attacks me when I'm not at least somewhat ready, I'm going to instantly die, instead of taking a few seconds to die.
*twiddle*
Saran2005-10-19 19:03:29
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 20 2005, 05:01 AM)
Uh. Please read what I wrote. The example was someone using wisp to attack me in the Glomdoring. It was used on Shayle yesterday in just this way. The example in no way said that ONLY Moondancers could do it, just that (in the Glomdoring) they're the likely culprits. Same as you won't see a Moondancer wisping and killing people in the Serenwilde.
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hehe i'm just pointing out that i rarely see anyone talk about wisp as a wiccan or shadowdancer skill, it seems to always be refered to as a moondancer skill.
and if they went rogue they could
Xenthos2005-10-19 19:03:33
QUOTE(Astraea @ Oct 19 2005, 03:01 PM)
Woah..why so abbrasive?Â
He was giving a hypothetical scenario where he (A member of Glomdoring) got attacked by someone (An Enemy). How would that scenario make sense if it were a Shadowdancer? He's not saying Shadowdancer skills shouldn't be nerfed along with Moondancer ones if they are...
You read too much into things.
He was giving a hypothetical scenario where he (A member of Glomdoring) got attacked by someone (An Enemy). How would that scenario make sense if it were a Shadowdancer? He's not saying Shadowdancer skills shouldn't be nerfed along with Moondancer ones if they are...
You read too much into things.
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Not to mention that wisp is the same for both sides. If one is changed, the other is changed along with it. Makes the entire thing rather amusing.
Xenthos2005-10-19 19:06:00
QUOTE(Saran @ Oct 19 2005, 03:03 PM)
hehe i'm just pointing out that i rarely see anyone talk about wisp as a wiccan or shadowdancer skill, it seems to always be refered to as a moondancer skill.
and if they went rogue they could
and if they went rogue they could
208544
Check wisp please. Doesn't it take commune power to summon? Rogues would have difficulty doing so... and if a Moon/Shadowdancer started doing this, they'd be removed and enemied in short order (removing their ability to wisp, if it does take commune power).
Saran2005-10-19 19:07:57
it takes any power, i checked incase it was a commune specific skill
Xenthos2005-10-19 19:11:25
Ah, interesting.
Anyhow, Moondancers were being mentioned because odds are, if you're a member of Glomdoring wandering around your home and you get wisped, it's a moondancer. The example was a person returning home to the Glomdoring and getting attacked out of the blue. That is the reason Moondancers were mentioned instead of an archetype.
No need to get so worked up about it.
Anyhow, Moondancers were being mentioned because odds are, if you're a member of Glomdoring wandering around your home and you get wisped, it's a moondancer. The example was a person returning home to the Glomdoring and getting attacked out of the blue. That is the reason Moondancers were mentioned instead of an archetype.
No need to get so worked up about it.
Saran2005-10-19 19:15:04
hehe i love it when people think i'm angry and i'm not. just something i noticed when the magical transportation topic was popular (i was wondering if there actually were any shadowdancers with the intense focus on the Moondancers)
oh for future reference it's only Maiden, Mother, Crone and their shadowdancer equivilents that require commune specific power (from memory) as all the others are apparently the same
oh for future reference it's only Maiden, Mother, Crone and their shadowdancer equivilents that require commune specific power (from memory) as all the others are apparently the same
Xenthos2005-10-19 19:20:07
QUOTE(Saran @ Oct 19 2005, 03:15 PM)
hehe i love it when people think i'm angry and i'm not. just something i noticed when the magical transportation topic was popular (i was wondering if there actually were any shadowdancers with the intense focus on the Moondancers)
oh for future reference it's only Maiden, Mother, Crone and their shadowdancer equivilents that require commune specific power (from memory) as all the others are apparently the same
oh for future reference it's only Maiden, Mother, Crone and their shadowdancer equivilents that require commune specific power (from memory) as all the others are apparently the same
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Edited a bit:
Yeah, I knew those ones took commune specific power, but thought the other fae required a connection to a commune nexus in order to summon (any commune). Apparently not.
And we didn't call you angry, we said you were abrasive and worked up. Slightly different! Abrasive fits better, but I didn't feel like copying it. The intense focus on Moondancers was because there aren't a whole lot of shadowdancers who use wisp and such offensively. Of the few who have it, I can name maybe... one, two who will aggressively wisp. The rest just cart one around for if someone shows up where they shouldn't be. This somewhat limits the amount of exposure others have with a Shadowdancer's wisp, especially when the one I know of for sure doesn't go raiding with wisps all that often.
Narsrim2005-10-19 20:31:32
I'd love to see a guard that I, as champion, hire tell me to put away my athame. I'd fire his/her ass in a heart beat.
Xenthos2005-10-19 20:39:50
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Oct 19 2005, 04:31 PM)
I'd love to see a guard that I, as champion, hire tell me to put away my athame. I'd fire his/her ass in a heart beat.
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Just kill it and then unenemy yourself.