So with recent things like the suggestion that the gods take Aebrin's gold and Viravain killing raiders, to what extent are the Divine allowed to participate in the gameplay? I'm just wondering and would like to know.

(Don't turn this into a flamefest!)

EDIT: Wow, I created a popular topic.



EDIT2: I keep changing it as I see more and more people reading this. Started out as 13...

I think you asked for too much there...these are the Lustyforums after all, everyone will be flamed sooner or later...



Anyway, I think Divine Intervention is okay as long as the God keeps to his RP and doesn't overdo it.

For example, I could see Lacostion killing Raiders who tried to burn Celests ( or any ) Library, or Shikari killing or mutilating someone for insulting Viravain..

But with Vernal Gods being limited in what they can do, are the Elder Gods also limited?

Divine intervention allows mages to AE better...

I haven't seen a God as immersed in the defense and offense of a commune/city as I've seen Viravain do. I'd love to know if Gods are actually allowed to kill raiders and actively defend their own city/commune.

She created Glomdoring, it's Her's. Why shouldn't She defend it?

Well, Vernal Gods are players after all, affilated with the commune/city that raised them. I'd think its quite possible to, for example, see Estarra cursing them with peace when such things important for their chity/commune happen, so that the all-cosmical-balance isn't disturbed too much.


From an OOC perspective:
Elder Gods - trusted staff, OOCly selected and well known
Vernal Gods - strangers, maybe guys with very grey background, could wander around and kill for their own amuse.

I've always thought of Vernal Gods as people chosen like the Ephermals. You have to be qualified to a certain extent to be one. But, since the only people who know about how they'll be chosen are the staff, we're all in the dark here.

If gods are allowed to kill raiders, than we should be able to kill gods (i dont know if you already can, but im sure you would need at least 20 people to kill one)

It sets the tone for imbalance. If she's defending the commune because 'it's hers' other communes/cities would want the same treatment as well. I mean. Why fight, why invest in skills, why do anything, if our Gods will fight our battles for us? When we're given the ability to combat Gods in a pvp sense, it'd be more reasonable, don't you think?

Hrm, I thought the choice of the people were completely IC since their creation and all are IC concepts too...but it would be interesting to know, really.
Would be kind of limiting...

Shamarah:'Hey, you, everyone loves you, we are going to make you Vernal.'
Estarra comes down and waggles her finger: 'Nuhu...he's one year too young! Choose another one!'
Shamarah:'Ummm...uuuhhh....oooo...kayyyy....'

Gods can't die.

Because she hes an unfair advantage?

By your reasoning, gods can do anything they want if only it fits their role.
What would you say if Hajamin raided Nil because he hates taint, or Raezon showed up on Nil during a raid and simply killed all the raiders with his power?

I think divine intervention should be limited. I know gods are more active in Lusternia, but they shouldn't just participate in conflict. It's just a general opinion, not based on any actual events.

Isnt that a tad unfair than

Exactly. Viravain and Glomdoring are a special case (pun not intended) and while She (the goddess) is involved more than some other gods, I am sure she (the admin) follows the role and rules Estarra and Co have decided upon fairly closely.

I like divine - mortal interaction and encourage it in almost all situations, but taking the gold would be a bit much I think.

Viravain kills once in a great while. Hajamin kills more and for more random reasons in my opinion. Viravain doesn't kill that much, but she directs our kills in a sense.

Argh, before it goes out of border further....this thread isn't 'bout recent happenings in Glom, it's about the general divine intervention....



I can see it coming already...

Um... they're gods...

Rakor- His point is, we can't -fight- a God. If a God rushes out to defend a city/commune, it's game over. There's no point. You can barely talk back to a God without getting zapped and killed, you can hardly expect to defend against one. What you end up with is a lazy or dependent city/commune that can't stand on their own.

He's eager to zap, but that's usually because of something personal like disrespect. And that's fine.