I glanced over the topics (yes all 35 pages :x) so I hope this wasn't mentioned.

I wish that when I tried to defend the merians from people killing them It was like enemy territory. If I die trying to defend my race. They get status.

I don't know how many others are protective of their racial areas, but i find it disheartening that that people can get away with killing people of my race and I can't defend because of avechna.

I'd defend my Mugwump kin except... wtf are they?

I feel your pain Kaileigh. Except I can't defend them 'cuz I'm just weak.

I think this would have its problems, simply because races are evident within all factions.

If a Merian Geomancer takes over the island while her friends loot the place, is that better than the way it is now?

And I don't even want to THINK about what it would mean for Faethorn.

I think this may have been sparked by the "defending" of Shallach that can happen if you kill ur'guard shock troopers. You get enemied, you're open game in Shallach.

Doesn't happen for Krokani, doesn't happen in the Aslaran camp, doesn't happen on the Merian isle, so there's no way to "defend".

No.. I've always thought about this. I just decided to post. Kaileigh refuses to kill any 'mob' that is another race.

I can't defend the merians cause frankly I suck. And when I do attack first they get the status and I can't go back and stop them so they get away with it. I don't know if any other raes really care. If I were an Aslaran I'd be protective of them. A Loboshigaru, protective o the Monastary The mesa. the nomad camp, you get the idea.

I can't really help that no one givs a flip about the krokani/dracnari/lucidians/trill/aslaran/loboshigarus

M problem is. I try to defend the merians, I have status on the person for whatever reason. I forgoe the status to stop him because no one cares to help. He kills me, then he goes and calls avenger on me and I'm peaced for a day all because I tried to stop someone from killing people of my race.

I really don't understand why you should have the "right" to defend your own race.

This was tried a long time ago by someone in Achaea, and it was frowned down upon by Sarapis, which subsequently lead to the said person being shrubbed. I don't see how this would work considering that you had Celestians killing Merians to stop people from closing the rift a while back.

It would make sense that if you kill any sentient creature in an area, that you would become an enemy to that area. Just like if you kill dwarves in villages, or dracnari in thier little nomad camp.

The issue is, code-wise, the mesa is it's own area, the nomad camp is it's own area. The Arysian isles, however, house two opposing groups in a single area. I believe the same is true of the Greymoors, not 100% on that one, though. Due to this, kill a gorgog, you're enemied to the area. A merian, enemied to the area. Damned if you help either side.

Narsrim, you should defend your own race. *points at himself*

And maybe there could be some kind of mechanic that lets you defend, and if you end up killing it later, you lose huge amounts of karma. *shrug*

I agree, from now on, I will be guarding the water plane with a veageance, being that Im a changeling, I can identify with these poor creatures, and will lay seige to any that try to harm them .

Pfft, you just don't want there to be less things for you to kill, monk killer.

Well, the reason that the Arysian Islands aren't affiliated to the merians is that they only control a third of it. What's more, their mortal enemies control an equal third of it.

Hey, I'd kill them too, they looked at me funny once.


But they are too hard....<.< >.>

I'm not Celest. I ddn't participate in that. I didn't agree with that. I said I'd kill (or try to) anyone that I saw doing it.

In the places that ou get enemied to for killing doesn't it just work in the group. like Nomads say enemied to the nomads. Not the place. so Kill a Merian, enemied to the Merians?

I can't play psychotic racist Merian if I gotta stand back and watch and it's a little counterprodutive to just throw myself at them. Even if I did manage to kill one they'd curse more use it to try to stop me from stopping them again.

I swear the people that don't need the curses use them the most but that's another issue.

The problem is the quest. To open the gorgogs, you need two merians to help you BUT you also have to kill a ton of them for a third part. If you were enemied, they wouldn't help you and it would be impossible to do the quest.

That's because the mesa compound and the nomad camp are their own areas, as stated before. You're enemied to the area that they live in- which is separated from the other.

Which isn't very nice for my race *whine*

Even if they don't get enemied. I wish I could defend them without so many consequences.

People usually refused to help me defend them because "It's not worth it they'll get status."

It's just like the annoying 'Don't bother Nil Magnagora will hit us back.' We become afraid to do anything because of the consequences.

Kaileigh, if you're so protective of Merians, you should fight the fact that your own citymates are consistently killing them at this very moment, not just earlier.. before complaining about others doing it. Wouldn't that be a nice first step?