Shiri2005-11-21 07:38:02
HELP GODS/HELP DIVINE/HELP DEITIES:
SOULLESS GODS: Even Estarra, with all her power and presence, cannot
defeat the ancient Soulless Gods without destroying all worlds, so they
represent a constant, underlying threat to the fabric of creation.
However, so long as they remain bound by the Nine Seals, the threat of the
Soulless is abated.
ELDER GODS: Having come into being at the time before time, the Elder Gods
represent powerful forces in their own right. However, they could not
stand against the Soulless Gods and were either consumed, fragmented their
beings into the mortal races, or fled the known realms. This was known as
the Elder Wars. With the Coming of Estarra, the Elder Gods are slowly
returning.
etc.
WHAT REALLY SHOULD BE HELP GODS, BUT IS IN FACT "HELP 11":
11 THE DEITIES OF LUSTERNIA
11.1 Gods The rulers on high.
11.1.1 Estarra Creatrix Goddess
11.1.2 Roark Elder God
11.1.3 Auseklis Elder God
11.1.4 Isune Elder Goddess
11.1.5 Lacostian Elder God
11.1.6 Fain Elder God
11.1.7 Raezon Elder God
11.1.8 Lisaera Elder Goddess
11.1.9 Terentia Elder Goddess
11.1.10 Hajamin Elder God
11.1.11 Viravain Elder Goddess
11.1.12 Elcyrion Elder God
11.2 Patronage The purpose of Divine Patronage.
11.2.1 Divine Orders What they are, what they do.
11.3 Offerings Offering things to the Gods at holy shrines.
11.4 Temples The Temples of the Gods.
11.5 Ascension Ascending from mortality to Divinity.
11.6 Divinefavour Rewards and punishments from the Gods.
I think the second one is a lot more useful, but a lot harder to get to. It doesn't really matter to me at all except that I keep getting the first one when I do HELP GODS in order to see a list or whatever, but I imagine a lot of newbies (especially those new to Lusternia, but not IRE) miss out on that, since due to the fact that the basic HELP index contains a load of stuff we already know and don't really use (and some of it wasn't even that helpful to me as an Achaean newbie, but everyone learns at different speeds). So I would never really have noticed that file, which is sad because there's a lot of useful stuff in there.
So this is a minor concern but it just bugs me that the first file has precedence over the second in that way. Could something there be switched around?
SOULLESS GODS: Even Estarra, with all her power and presence, cannot
defeat the ancient Soulless Gods without destroying all worlds, so they
represent a constant, underlying threat to the fabric of creation.
However, so long as they remain bound by the Nine Seals, the threat of the
Soulless is abated.
ELDER GODS: Having come into being at the time before time, the Elder Gods
represent powerful forces in their own right. However, they could not
stand against the Soulless Gods and were either consumed, fragmented their
beings into the mortal races, or fled the known realms. This was known as
the Elder Wars. With the Coming of Estarra, the Elder Gods are slowly
returning.
etc.
WHAT REALLY SHOULD BE HELP GODS, BUT IS IN FACT "HELP 11":
11 THE DEITIES OF LUSTERNIA
11.1 Gods The rulers on high.
11.1.1 Estarra Creatrix Goddess
11.1.2 Roark Elder God
11.1.3 Auseklis Elder God
11.1.4 Isune Elder Goddess
11.1.5 Lacostian Elder God
11.1.6 Fain Elder God
11.1.7 Raezon Elder God
11.1.8 Lisaera Elder Goddess
11.1.9 Terentia Elder Goddess
11.1.10 Hajamin Elder God
11.1.11 Viravain Elder Goddess
11.1.12 Elcyrion Elder God
11.2 Patronage The purpose of Divine Patronage.
11.2.1 Divine Orders What they are, what they do.
11.3 Offerings Offering things to the Gods at holy shrines.
11.4 Temples The Temples of the Gods.
11.5 Ascension Ascending from mortality to Divinity.
11.6 Divinefavour Rewards and punishments from the Gods.
I think the second one is a lot more useful, but a lot harder to get to. It doesn't really matter to me at all except that I keep getting the first one when I do HELP GODS in order to see a list or whatever, but I imagine a lot of newbies (especially those new to Lusternia, but not IRE) miss out on that, since due to the fact that the basic HELP index contains a load of stuff we already know and don't really use (and some of it wasn't even that helpful to me as an Achaean newbie, but everyone learns at different speeds). So I would never really have noticed that file, which is sad because there's a lot of useful stuff in there.
So this is a minor concern but it just bugs me that the first file has precedence over the second in that way. Could something there be switched around?
Daganev2005-11-21 08:01:44
Oooh, they actually have that list? I've been missing it all this time! And here I thought they just didn't want a list known.
Shiri2005-11-21 08:04:34
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 21 2005, 08:01 AM)
Oooh, they actually have that list? I've been missing it all this time! And here I thought they just didn't want a list known.
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That's exactly what I thought for quite a while, but then it occured to me that in like the first month of open BETA I was sure I remembered something there. So I looked it up.
Penelope2005-11-21 09:26:31
Heh, if you really want to know who all the Gods are just stole up to the fulcruxes and jot their names down like I did.
I was surprised at the Gods I found and had never heard of before.
I was surprised at the Gods I found and had never heard of before.
Shiri2005-11-21 09:33:24
I know all the gods, talked to all but 3 IC at some point or other (well, Lisaera's iffy, I've participated in discussions w/Her but never really talked to her) but lots of people aren't going to And I just think it would be nice if this file wouldn't be missed. It's not very intuitive-access as far as HELP goes.
Penelope2005-11-21 09:42:51
I rather like the fact that not all the Gods keep a help file of themselves for everyone to read. Makes you get off your tush and go find out about them.
Shiri2005-11-21 09:49:04
QUOTE(Penelope @ Nov 21 2005, 09:42 AM)
I rather like the fact that not all the Gods keep a help file of themselves for everyone to read. Makes you get off your tush and go find out about them.
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You're clearly looking at a different HELP 11 to me, because every God on that list has a help file about them.
Albeit some less in-depth than others.
Elgar2005-11-21 10:19:29
help 11 if accually an index of help files under topic 11. Just like help 1 shows all the introduction files.
And Shikari needs to write a help scroll because I can't go talk to him ingame
And Shikari needs to write a help scroll because I can't go talk to him ingame
Shiri2005-11-21 10:41:47
But it used to be (and was on Achaea, IIRC) HELP GODS as well, for clarity.
QUOTE(Policies)
3149h, 3842m, 4304e, 10p, 14645en, 18110w exkp-help 15
15 POLICIES
 15.1  Policysummary  Summary of Lusternia's policies.
 15.2  Underage     What we expect in the way of maturity.
 15.3  Your Character  Rules related to transfers, sharing, etc.
 15.3.1 Seconds     The rules of second characters.
 15.3.2 Multiplaying   The rules for multiplaying.
 15.3.3 Charactersharing Sharing characters is strictly forbidden.
 15.4  Scams      Protecting your gold and your adventurer.
15 POLICIES
 15.1  Policysummary  Summary of Lusternia's policies.
 15.2  Underage     What we expect in the way of maturity.
 15.3  Your Character  Rules related to transfers, sharing, etc.
 15.3.1 Seconds     The rules of second characters.
 15.3.2 Multiplaying   The rules for multiplaying.
 15.3.3 Charactersharing Sharing characters is strictly forbidden.
 15.4  Scams      Protecting your gold and your adventurer.
QUOTE(Policies)
3149h, 3842m, 4304e, 10p, 14645en, 18110w exkp-help policies
15 POLICIES
 15.1  Policysummary  Summary of Lusternia's policies.
 15.2  Underage     What we expect in the way of maturity.
 15.3  Your Character  Rules related to transfers, sharing, etc.
 15.3.1 Seconds     The rules of second characters.
 15.3.2 Multiplaying   The rules for multiplaying.
 15.3.3 Charactersharing Sharing characters is strictly forbidden.
 15.4  Scams      Protecting your gold and your adventurer.
15 POLICIES
 15.1  Policysummary  Summary of Lusternia's policies.
 15.2  Underage     What we expect in the way of maturity.
 15.3  Your Character  Rules related to transfers, sharing, etc.
 15.3.1 Seconds     The rules of second characters.
 15.3.2 Multiplaying   The rules for multiplaying.
 15.3.3 Charactersharing Sharing characters is strictly forbidden.
 15.4  Scams      Protecting your gold and your adventurer.
Unknown2005-11-21 11:01:41
Shikari still needs to write his help file.
Shiri2005-11-21 11:02:23
Damnit. I swear I checked all those.
EDIT: Ahah, I did, I just didn't think to actually check for the Gods that don't show up on that list. Genius, I am.
EDIT: Ahah, I did, I just didn't think to actually check for the Gods that don't show up on that list. Genius, I am.
Soll2005-11-21 15:27:06
Shikari won't be writing a help scroll so that you get off your ass and find out for yourself.
Shorlen2005-11-21 16:35:50
On a somewhat related note, I miss Kethuru's help scroll It was awesome.
EDIT: For you young'uns:
help viravain
11.1.11 VIRAVAIN
WE APOLOGIZE BUT THE HELP SCROLL FOR VIRAVAIN EXPLODES IN FLAMES EVERYTIME WE
TRY TO WRITE IT.
EDIT: For you young'uns:
help viravain
11.1.11 VIRAVAIN
WE APOLOGIZE BUT THE HELP SCROLL FOR VIRAVAIN EXPLODES IN FLAMES EVERYTIME WE
TRY TO WRITE IT.
Astraea2005-11-21 16:37:00
Kethuru had a help scroll? Eep, does anyone remember it? Someone post it or PM it to me? -beg-
Xenthos2005-11-21 16:39:53
When Viravain was possessed:
look viravain
your eyeballs explode
you die
the end.
help viravain
YOU INSIGNIFICANT PITIFUL MORTALS I AM GOING TO CONSUME YOU ALL! YOUR TIME IS UP! MUAHAHAHA!
(Paraphrased)
Aw, darn, Shorlen beat me to it. With the actual one, no less.
look viravain
your eyeballs explode
you die
the end.
help viravain
YOU INSIGNIFICANT PITIFUL MORTALS I AM GOING TO CONSUME YOU ALL! YOUR TIME IS UP! MUAHAHAHA!
(Paraphrased)
Aw, darn, Shorlen beat me to it. With the actual one, no less.
Shorlen2005-11-21 16:43:38
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Nov 21 2005, 12:39 PM)
When Viravain was possessed:
help viravain
YOU INSIGNIFICANT PITIFUL MORTALS I AM GOING TO CONSUME YOU ALL! YOUR TIME IS UP! MUAHAHAHA!
(Paraphrased)
help viravain
YOU INSIGNIFICANT PITIFUL MORTALS I AM GOING TO CONSUME YOU ALL! YOUR TIME IS UP! MUAHAHAHA!
(Paraphrased)
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That wasn't her help scroll, it was her forum post Then Estarra told us she'd jump out of the monitor and eat us, and I ran away just in case
Xenthos2005-11-21 16:47:20
I knew I remembered seeing it somewhere.