Event request system

by Unknown

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Unknown2005-12-28 01:43:39
QUOTE
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17.7  EVENT REQUESTS
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Syntax:
EVENTREQ

EVENTREQS
EVENTREQ DELETE

When you have played over 400 hours and are above at least level 50, you may place requests for administrative support in major roleplay events that you are planning to undertake yourself. This system is only for the most important events affecting the development of your family, guild, commune or city - not everyday rituals or enactments that have minor impact on others.

After placing your request, you will be notified by a God if they are available to observe, and support the implications of your event. Note that the administration is often busy with other duties, and so it is advised to request approval well before you begin the event. In providing details, explain briefly what you are planning to happen, and what causal effects you would expect to follow as a result. You may ask for a God to help you in some manner during your event, but be aware that this may deter the administration from approving your request. If you can't roleplay the event yourself, it is a good indication it is probably excessive or inappropriate.

If your request is denied, reconsider whether your event is appropriate for the role of your character in Lusternia, and whether it is worth the time for the administration to spend in helping you realize it.


Thoughts?
Unknown2005-12-28 02:00:45
The reasoning behind this and not so much the plots board is that it encourages active roleplaying events. Players can suggest something they want to start, and all they need is the approval to do so with the knowledge that their actions are likely to result in something, even if it's not what they intended.

The plots board is more for things that we want the administration to start. Big, realm-wide things.

The problem I have is that speaking and emoting is fine, but when you're trying to actually affect some change, you need to know that someone who has the power to make that change is watching. That in itself is terribly difficult - you can only ask your patron ic, but that's not really always the best option. They can be busy with their own duties, whereas a God you might never contact IC has the time available to help.
Kharne2005-12-28 02:19:14
wow, this would be great as i always miss events biggrin.gif
Cwin2005-12-28 03:08:42
One tricky point about this: Overexpectations.

Making world-shattering events happen isn't easy for them: It takes planning, resources, and time to make it come together.

Why I bring it up is, will a person be using these Events boards to expect something immediate from their actions? Say, "I want to be able to create explosives. I'll be working on it in my study and will expect the first 'accidental boom' within the next week". Even if they don't say that, will the still expect it once a divine approves of the idea?

A player-made event, especialy when many are put in at once, will have ALOT of downtime, where the players are doing their thing but no Code/Divine will make anything impressive. Will that explosive user, after knowing that the action is approved, mind sitting in their hall emoting their work and showing it for RL months without anything major comming from it?

As such, I like the concept of being able to send in a player-made event, but it needs to be less...easy to suggest.

Perhaps have something similar to Envoys: A minister that gathers requests from their nation and offers it for consideration from the Powers That Be, which can agree or disagree on them (based on whether it's feasable, overpowering, something that actually needs Them, so on and so forth).

The ideas that are accepted are told to that minister, along with a basic idea on how it will carry out, what is required of the people doing it, so on. If that mage's explosive idea is passed, the counsil can pass THAT along and the mage can begin happily RPing the Basin's first bomb. Also, if that mage ends up not doing enough on their part, the whole thing can be casualy thrown out for something else.

I mean, it works for our Skills (in the Envoy system) why not let it work by Events. Besides, BIG events shouldn't take only one person: the whole nation should be involved in some form.

As for events that don't help that nation (say, a plot to taint the Pool from within) an Order can be an alternative path for Event requests. If you can't get either: RP WELL and hope for the best.. since loners usualy don't get things done.
Arix2005-12-28 03:22:40
this would make a lot more work for the Powers What Is, but it could be wothwhile
Unknown2005-12-28 03:26:15
QUOTE(Cwin @ Dec 28 2005, 03:08 AM)
As such, I like the concept of being able to send in a player-made event, but it needs to be less...easy to suggest. 

Perhaps have something similar to Envoys: A minister that gathers requests from their nation and offers it for consideration from the Powers That Be, which can agree or disagree on them (based on whether it's feasable, overpowering, something that actually needs Them, so on and so forth). 

The ideas that are accepted are told to that minister, along with a basic idea on how it will carry out, what is required of the people doing it, so on.  If that mage's explosive idea is passed, the counsil can pass THAT along and the mage can begin happily RPing the Basin's first bomb.  Also, if that mage ends up not doing enough on their part, the whole thing can be casualy thrown out for something else.

I mean, it works for our Skills (in the Envoy system) why not let it work by Events.  Besides, BIG events shouldn't take only one person: the whole nation should be involved in some form.

As for events that don't help that nation (say, a plot to taint the Pool from within) an Order can be an alternative path for Event requests.  If you can't get either: RP WELL and hope for the best.. since loners usualy don't get things done.
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I don't really like this. The reason it is limited to those with over 400 hours and above level 50 is to make it something only senior and long-term players can use. Making an IC bureacracy for it will be both tedious, and strange... as it isn't an IC system. If its something the admin don't have time for, they can reject it and say as much.

This way though, at least you get an answer one way or the other relatively quickly without much fuss if its not going to work.
Diamondais2005-12-28 04:37:29
Id love to be able to request an event, though that scroll was changed cause 17.7 is now mini-battles, as Im already planning something for the opening of my families manse. But then again, for that all I really need is an Illusionist which lately I seem to be surrounded by. Cool though.
Hajamin2005-12-28 04:50:34
QUOTE(diamondais @ Dec 28 2005, 01:37 PM)
Id love to be able to request an event, though that scroll was changed cause 17.7 is now mini-battles, as Im already planning something for the opening of my families manse. But then again, for that all I really need is an Illusionist which lately I seem to be surrounded by. Cool though.
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We have a news board you can do that with, which is rarely used. Why would we code a whole big system for those things, when what we already gave you is rarely used?
Unknown2005-12-28 05:09:24
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Dec 28 2005, 03:50 PM)
We have a news board you can do that with, which is rarely used.  Why would we code a whole big system for those things, when what we already gave you is rarely used?
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Mostly 'cause we like shiny new things tongue.gif.
Cwin2005-12-28 05:45:43
Hours and level does not a good storywriter (which is essentualy what we're asking for) make.

Blah.
Diamondais2005-12-28 06:42:56
I already said I was going to use Illusions...just be easier and time saving..ignore me
Eyod2005-12-28 07:43:37
I thought plots was only for major world events rather then something that only effects a small group?
Unknown2005-12-28 08:09:51
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Dec 28 2005, 04:50 AM)
We have a news board you can do that with, which is rarely used.  Why would we code a whole big system for those things, when what we already gave you is rarely used?
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Well, are we supposed to be using the plot board for requesting divine help in upcoming family/guild/city roleplay? Does it facilitate feedback of any kind?
Verithrax2005-12-28 09:31:03
I like that idea. smile.gif
Diamondais2005-12-28 17:28:07
QUOTE(Hajamin @ Dec 28 2005, 12:50 AM)
We have a news board you can do that with, which is rarely used.  Why would we code a whole big system for those things, when what we already gave you is rarely used?
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Actually now that Im awake and enjoy clear thought, I think many were under the impression that Plots was for -major- events.

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ANNOUNCE NEWS #370
Date: 8/18/2005 at 0:38
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To  : Everyone
Subj: Plots

We are going to try a little experiment and see what plot ideas you
have. Plot ideas are the basis for roleplaying events. Those of you
level 50 or more and have 300 or more hours of play time will see a news
section called PLOTS which you can post in (but not read). If we find
this board fills up with frivolous and useless ideas, we'll probably
discontinue its existence, so please think through your ideas before
posting and post only serious ideas.

Remember, that we are looking for plots that involve large groups and
not individuals or families.
The chances are we won't use your plot, but
if we do use it, be prepared for it to manifest in different
directions--i.e., don't think you know what's going on even if you
recognize an event inspired by your plot idea, be prepared to be
surprised. If you do recognize an event inspired by your plot idea, we'd
appreciate it if you don't tell people, even on the forums (until after
its over anyway). This is not a call for players to design events, but
rather for us to see what players are interested in and to give us
inspiration.


Bolded for importance.
Richter2005-12-28 17:37:36
And those that choose to use illusions for RP, that's what they are, illusions.

If you illusion in a room with me, my triggers go off. It's a random bunch of things that I say, anywhere from "Nice illusion" to "You can't fool the eye of a master artist".

That's part of the reason why I don't like illusions for RP. Though, I particularly hate people that say, "OMG wuz that an illuzion?" whenever something actually happens. That's your real self talking, your in game self should take that as actually happening.

Anyway. Do we need an "event request system"? I just message gods when I need help. Isune, Fain, and Terentia have all helped shape my character by doing anything from sparkles rising from the ground, to mobpossessing, to teleporting me across the world. Our staff rocks, I think you just have to ask nicely.
Diamondais2005-12-28 17:44:09
Using an illusion was to not have to bother the Gods. The family has what..five members, well, me and Narid are divorced and hes not coming back to Lusternia so..were down to four. Oh, then look, my son Vaeruhn well hes too busy in real life to come so were down to three. Im engaged, oh! That shoves us up to four active members. Just no point in going after a God to help me do something only four family members and a friend will partake in. Then again, Yendos is an Aquamancer with Illusions. Hm..its not his time to 'partake in the opening of rooms' EVOKE YESOD and Illusion away. He still gets to be there, it looks as if no ones there to do it as Im Celestine, and the two active children I have plus my daughters fiance are Moondancers. Works perfectly.

And yes I am too opinionated this morning
Verithrax2006-01-19 02:13:16
>DARKCHANT RESSURECT THREAD

There was a discussion a while ago in the forums about how custom illusions should be availiable, and about how they'd make running player-started events easier... And I just thought of a solution to the problem.

EMIT

Would create a custom, undetectable illusion. Effectively, it would make something happen. It takes 10 seconds of balance, and every time it's used, it's logged - so if you abuse this power, you WILL get caught, and you'll end up leafy. Not just anyone can do that, of course. You can request the power to do something like that by doing REQUEST EMIT ; only people that have player more than 300 hours can request. Also, you're expected to RELINQUISH EMIT once you've done using that awesome power, or the admin will do it for you. Anyone who uses emit to do somthing that is poor RP, who asks for EMIT to do frivolous things, or who misuses it, can be subject to a number of punishments, up to and including shrubbing. At the very least, you lose rolepoints.

Since the admin aren't aways availiable, you would REQUEST for an event early, a few days after it actually happening. After you're done with it, you RELINQUISH.
Gwylifar2006-01-19 17:23:57