This is about my second time influencing, I have no idea what I'm doing. Any words of advice?



The Ballroom of Chateau d'Amour.
This location is flooded with shallow, crystal clear water. Aqua Adept Nyanco is
here, shrouded. He wields a glittering seraphic tower shield in his left hand and a
coral staff in his right.
You see exits leading north (open door), east, south, and up.
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Rauros arrives from the up.
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Rauros leaves to the east.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco is so overwhelmed that he eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco is so overwhelmed that he eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
Kharvik arrives from the up.
The room darkens as a hideous archdemon appears.
who here
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
You see the following people here:
Nyanco, Kharvik, Richter
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Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
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Kharvik leaves to the south.
A hideous archdemon departs, trailing black mist.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco is so overwhelmed that he eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 4700e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Nyanco exposes your argument as nothing more than a
baseless form of emotional blackmail.
4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Your argument leaves Nyanco staring at you in
stupefaction, and his continued silence must obviously be taken for concession.
4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-debate nyanco with pontification

You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
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4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-debate nyanco with pontification

You must regain equilibrium first.
4114h, 3804m, 3331e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p ex-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
4114h, 3804m, 3722e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
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Shaeden arrives from the up.
A beatific cherub flitters in from the up and circles overhead.
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Shaeden leaves to the east.
With an aerial somersault, a beatific cherub flitters off to the east.
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You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Your argument leaves Nyanco staring at you in
stupefaction, and his continued silence must obviously be taken for concession.
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 4113e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
4114h, 3804m, 4504e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 4504e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 4504e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pettyfoggery

Syntax: DEBATE WITH
4114h, 3804m, 4504e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pettifoggery

You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing up
esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Nyanco laughs in your face and counters
every point you raise with facts of arcane trivia that deflates your entire
dissertation.
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You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 2675e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.
4114h, 3804m, 2675e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 2675e, 10p ex-sip bromides

You take a drink from an opal vial.
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
4114h, 3804m, 3351e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Your argument leaves Nyanco staring at you in
stupefaction, and his continued silence must obviously be taken for concession.
4114h, 3804m, 3351e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
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You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
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You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 3742e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with pontification

You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. With great glee, Nyanco rips apart your arguments
with brilliant logic, transforming your entire discourse into an example of
absurdity.
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Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
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You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 906e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco is so overwhelmed that he eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
4114h, 3804m, 906e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 906e, 10p x-sip bromides

You take a drink from an opal vial.
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
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(Glomdoring): Valarien says, "Bah, I was on such a streak, too."
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You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 2005e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco frowns at you and shakes his head, but concedes the argument to you.
4114h, 3804m, 2005e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 2005e, 10p x-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4114h, 3804m, 2005e, 10p x-sip bromides

You take a drink from an opal vial.
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
4114h, 3804m, 2930e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 2930e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 2930e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Nyanco frowns at you and shakes his head, but concedes the argument to you.
4114h, 3804m, 2930e, 10p x-
Nyanco takes a drink from an amethyst vial.
4114h, 3804m, 2930e, 10p x-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4114h, 3804m, 3321e, 10p x-sip bromides

You take a drink from an opal vial.
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
4114h, 3804m, 4077e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

4114h, 3804m, 4077e, 10p ex-
4114h, 3804m, 4077e, 10p ex-debate nyanco with passion

You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Nyanco exposes your argument as nothing more than a
baseless form of emotional blackmail.
4114h, 3804m, 617e, 10p x-
Nyanco unscrupulously quibbles about the smallest points in his argument, bringing up
esoteric minutiae to support his radical theories. The logic of this argument is
sound and you find yourself conceding to all the points raised.
The stress of this debate is too much! You throw up your hands up in exasperation and
curse loudly, losing face in front of your peers.
After a long pause in you and your interlocutor's dialectic, you lose interest in the
debate and let your mind drift to other things.
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You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4114h, 3804m, 0e, 10p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

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4114h, 3804m, 0e, 10p ex-gag

You gag and sputter.
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Nyanco's mouth turns up as his face breaks into a smile.
4114h, 3804m, 391e, 10p ex-say that was hardcore

You say, "That was hardcore."

Ack, I don't think I was autosipping. Murphy, fix it for me!

psh, no system of mine will aut sip ego, thats for pansies and sanctuarywhores!

But I lost. It needs to autosip and autosparkle.

Heh, leaving a person open to mindburst kills.

Translation: Bugger, I forgot to code that .

Kidding .

Debating is so much fun



I sure do love it

I sense a little sarcasm...

I've been meaning to make something like that, to show me how I'm doing.

I am quite new to influence too, in this battle I just kept changing random mindsets and landed a lucky hit at the end.

Should changeling into tae'dae when you influence, Richter. You'd have massive ego, an insane sip, and faster speed. Would probably get you to survive an extra round or two, which in debating, is enough to make ya or break ya.

Ok, below this is the breakdown of the fight, with my comments in bold. Here's the summary though:

Learn the different messages! You suffered to the same thing many other people suffer: Draw issues. At one point you attacked 5 times with the same attack, each time drawing against Nyanco and, instead of switching, kept at it. He could've left you to do that all day (I have actually to some). Instead, he switches to make you lose to him (though picked the wrong mindset at first a few times. After that you switch to another attack and stay there till you hit loss, then again, and again.

Use a message/substitute system to take stuff like this:
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Nyanco splutters in confusion, unable to refute your
argument.

And tells you this:
You used Pontification, and he used Pedantic. DRAW!

Then remember that attack power goes up both when a person wins and as time goes on. Highlight drinking messages as well for good measure.


Detail analysis below:

Oh yah, and autosip is nice, but wouldn't have saved you this match. By that last hit, the attacks were doing so much they were near instakills.

Best way to deal with that is to either finish it early or be able to catch their defense pattern so you're attacks are more accurate. If it's gone more than 10 rounds and you are still attacking random, then it's best to run.

Wow, your comments are really great for learning more about debating! Thanks

I admit that I'm not that great debater, most of my mindset changes where just random or done when I was getting too much damage from an attack. I'm still not able to figure out a good strategy in real time (a replacement system as you suggested would be really handy).