Description

by Richter

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Richter2006-01-12 19:59:18
Although I'm great at making my own descriptions, I want to see if someone can whip one up that I like more. Here's the details:

-The item is a crown
-The theme is "ascension" (if approved, when I submit for customization, it will be The Crown of Ascension)
-I don't want it overly elaborate
-It has to be magical

Oh, and I have to like it more than mine for you to get the credits. I know it's not really fair, but it's only a short paragraph. tongue.gif
Richter2006-01-13 21:15:57
Freeeeee credits.
Exarius2006-01-13 22:45:06
QUOTE(Richter @ Jan 13 2006, 04:15 PM)
Freeeeee credits.
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You're an ambitious and creative sort yourself, Richter. You want people to praise and value your Deepnight, Merchants' Guild, et. al. So why would you call this "free credits", when you're offering to maybe exchange them for someone's creative efforts, and ONLY if you decide their work is better than yours?

Let's do the math, where...

a = Your description
b = Winning description
c = 10 Credits
d = free

b > a (The winning description must be of more vlaue than yours.)
b = c (The winning description is worth 10 Credits.)
c = d (The 10 Credits are free.)
d = 0 (What is free cost nothing.)

Therefore...

c = 0 (The 10 Credits cost nothing.)
b = 0 (The winning description is nothing.)
0 > a (Your own description is worth less than nothing.)

Q.E.D.

Now since Deep Night is made up of the sum of your creative efforts, and you've just declared each of your individual efforts to be less than worthless, add this all up and Deep Night becomes utter trash you should be paying us for enduring every time it comes up.

Do I believe this conclusion? No.

But I do hope it makes you conscious of how condescending even you, a player whose primary goal is to create, can be toward the worth of creativity.

It's human nature to want something for nothing, but artists of every medium find themselves fighting a constant, uphill battle just to keep from feeling guilty for asking to be compensated for their time and skills. It's demeaning.

So please: if no one bites at the terms you offer, either offer better terms or accept you can't afford to pay for the service. Don't insult the value of the creative effort.
Shamarah2006-01-13 23:22:03
Exarius, I'm really not sure what you're talking about, 10 credits is quite a bit for writing a tiny crown description.
Unknown2006-01-13 23:25:49
Heh, that was clever, Exarius. Well said.

However, I think that might be reading into what Richter said a tad too much. His offer is pretty reasonable, maybe just misworded with the 'free' bit.
Richter2006-01-14 03:02:39
QUOTE(Exarius @ Jan 13 2006, 02:45 PM)
You're an ambitious and creative sort yourself, Richter. You want people to praise and value your Deepnight, Merchants' Guild, et. al. So why would you call this "free credits", when you're offering to maybe exchange them for someone's creative efforts, and ONLY if you decide their work is better than yours?

Let's do the math, where...

a = Your description
b = Winning description
c = 10 Credits
d = free

b > a (The winning description must be of more vlaue than yours.)
b = c (The winning description is worth 10 Credits.)
c = d (The 10 Credits are free.)
d = 0 (What is free cost nothing.)

Therefore...

c = 0 (The 10 Credits cost nothing.)
b = 0 (The winning description is nothing.)
0 > a (Your own description is worth less than nothing.)

Q.E.D.

Now since Deep Night is made up of the sum of your creative efforts, and you've just declared each of your individual efforts to be less than worthless, add this all up and Deep Night becomes utter trash you should be paying us for enduring every time it comes up.

Do I believe this conclusion? No.

But I do hope it makes you conscious of how condescending even you, a player whose primary goal is to create, can be toward the worth of creativity.

It's human nature to want something for nothing, but artists of every medium find themselves fighting a constant, uphill battle just to keep from feeling guilty for asking to be compensated for their time and skills. It's demeaning.

So please: if no one bites at the terms you offer, either offer better terms or accept you can't afford to pay for the service. Don't insult the value of the creative effort.
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I never figured out if I should hate you because you're plain mean most of the time, or to like you because you're clever and intellegent...

In any case, I thought there was a chance that someone might be able to come up with a better description than I could. Thus, if you'd like to read more into it, I'm admitting I'm human and humbling myself by declaring it is quite possible that someone can create a better description.

That, or I'm being lazy, one of the two. smile.gif
Unknown2006-01-14 04:12:49
EDIT: Don't think we need that kind of thing, thank you! ~Shiri~

Regardless, dude's sentiment stands utterly chilled: For he taketh the moral high-ground in stating there is no real material price you can put on creativity: It's priceless. Anyway I'm like...carrying on. Gracefully taken, Richter!

Oh and I'll write stuff for Deepnight if you want, I hang out there with my brothers and ferlas and stuff sometimes. Maybe we can work something out.


- Percy
P.S. Dude is it possible to eat those gold carrots from angkrag or whatever? Because I was thinking that'd totally be the perfect gift for Joli.
Richter2006-01-17 21:46:34
The winnar:

This simple, yet beautiful crown is made from what appears to be some kind of glass. However, a deep crimson glow emanates from within and shines through, casting strange shadows on anything nearby. The base of the crown is simple and cylindrical, and every few inches is a concavity, in which artifact runes have been placed. The tips of the crown are arrow-shaped, and come to a razor-sharp point. On the inside of base, near the back, is a firey gold etching that reads, "The sky is no longer the limit." Every so often, the energy within this magical marvel crackles faintly, and then suddenly goes quiet.

I will now give myself ten credits. smile.gif A few people actually did try, but none of them seemed to click with me. Thanks guys. biggrin.gif
Unknown2006-01-19 21:26:25
Was there ever any doubt?
Richter2006-01-19 21:28:44
That I would use my own description? I only made it after I got some entries, and realized they weren't quite what I was shooting for. So, yeah, someone could have won.
Marcalo2006-01-24 03:19:45
Actually in my dealings with Richter he's usually pretty fair, if he says i am offering 1mil gold to the person who finds me a silver nugget, generally he is going to go well this isn't pure enough silver begon peasant. So really to attack him by saying he had some how rigged the contest to me is just dumb. Because i know he would have payed out the credits if he had gotten a descript that suited his needs.
Unknown2006-01-24 04:23:40
QUOTE(Richter @ Jan 17 2006, 09:46 PM)

I will now give myself ten credits. smile.gif A few people actually did try, but none of them seemed to click with me. Thanks guys. biggrin.gif
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Heh, well, you still come out at a loss of 40 credits after the customization... tongue.gif
Richter2006-01-24 08:43:49
You amuse me. When I rule the world someday, you will be my court jester, and you may have as much Turkish Delight as you desire. smile.gif