Love and lust

by Unknown

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Unknown2006-01-24 00:26:29
When you are hit by love potion effect, your passive effects towards that person end, while your active abilities are not hindered in any way.

Why is this? Wouldn't it make sense to be totally lusted? So that until you reject the person you can't commit any hostile actions towards them. This way, using love potion would have dangers against all classes.
Kharne2006-01-24 00:36:46
wouldnt that be a bit overpowered for something that costs like 500 gold per refill?
Shamarah2006-01-24 00:57:55
That's kinda crazy.
Cwin2006-01-24 01:22:32
*rub anti-nerfclass card*
*throw anti-nerfclass card at thread*

Love potions can stop a warriors attack when Web can stop a Druid's demesne.

Unknown2006-01-24 02:02:27
Well, that way, using a love potion there is the chance that you yourself will have to reject, not just the druid/mage.
Narsrim2006-01-24 02:06:35
Bad idea. Plus, it is possible to lust someone and still want to gut them. Both affliction wise and in real life:

Love != lust
Shiri2006-01-24 02:07:37
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 02:02 AM)
Well, that way, using a love potion there is the chance that you yourself will have to reject, not just the druid/mage.
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A lot of people do anyway - you need people enemied for contagion, darkmoon, probably a couple Night skills, etc.

No one's suggesting that rebounding reflect runes/hexes/cudgel points, so the only viable method there is to hinder druids shouldn't stop anything else.
Unknown2006-01-24 02:20:38
Love potion at least stops ents attacking though, right?
Unknown2006-01-24 02:24:31
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Jan 24 2006, 02:06 AM)
Bad idea. Plus, it is possible to lust someone and still want to gut them. Both affliction wise and in real life:

Love != lust
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Well, there's not really any point a demesne would stop attacking someone you want to gut, in that case. tongue.gif
Shiri2006-01-24 02:24:47
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 02:20 AM)
Love potion at least stops ents attacking though, right?
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No, thankfully, that would be insane. Unlike druids, if we walk out of the room to avoid the (very slow, 20 second) tick our ents won't keep attacking in the meantime.
Unknown2006-01-24 02:28:23
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 24 2006, 02:24 AM)
No, thankfully, that would be insane. Unlike druids, if we walk out of the room to avoid the (very slow, 20 second) tick our ents won't keep attacking in the meantime.
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How do you mean?
Shiri2006-01-24 02:35:31
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 02:28 AM)
How do you mean?
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I mean that if you start counting the lust tick, you can walk out of the room the second before it ticks, wait a second (or attack from range, or whatever) and then walk back in, completely unaffected by the lust, and if your demesne happened to go off in the meantime, well, it still does.

That doesn't work with ents, and if you miss ticks with them it's worse than missing demesne ticks, since they happen a full 2 seconds slower each cycle.

EDIT: Well, demons and angels are faster, forgot about that, but still.
Unknown2006-01-24 02:51:46
Don't fae attack when the owner is not in the room?
Shiri2006-01-24 03:04:13
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 02:51 AM)
Don't fae attack when the owner is not in the room?
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If you want to have the ones that attack follow the person they're attacking, which makes them really easy to screw up by moving around and losing them, yes, but not normally.
Unknown2006-01-24 03:38:19
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 24 2006, 03:04 AM)
If you want to have the ones that attack follow the person they're attacking, which makes them really easy to screw up by moving around and losing them, yes, but not normally.
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Can't you then faecall them back all at once?

I'm not saying its quite as easy as with demesnes, where when the Druid/mage leaves the person has a minute of full demesne hitting them before the protection scroll kicks in again, but its not -vastly- worse.

I don't really see how having love potion stop passive fae (or other ent) attacks would be too different to stopping passive demesne attacks. And if attackers using the passive afflicting power of love had to bear the disadvantage of risking losing their passive ent attacks until rejecting, I think it would be a nice change.
Shiri2006-01-24 04:38:34
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 03:38 AM)
Can't you then faecall them back all at once?

I'm not saying its quite as easy as with demesnes, where when the Druid/mage leaves the person has a minute of full demesne hitting them before the protection scroll kicks in again, but its not -vastly- worse.

I don't really see how having love potion stop passive fae (or other ent) attacks would be too different to stopping passive demesne attacks. And if attackers using the passive afflicting power of love had to bear the disadvantage of risking losing their passive ent attacks until rejecting, I think it would be a nice change.
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Well, you can faecall them back, but it takes up equilibrium. That said, you're probably right in that it wouldn't be TOO much worse.

The point, however, is that it's a strict upgrade which druids and mages flat out do not need.

Protection scrolls takes equilibrium to put up, by the way, so it's not viable in mid-combat.
Unknown2006-01-24 05:02:13
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 24 2006, 04:38 AM)
The point, however, is that it's a strict upgrade which druids and mages flat out do not need.

Protection scrolls takes equilibrium to put up, by the way, so it's not viable in mid-combat.
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How is it an upgrade? Druids/Mages have ents too.

Also, your example was the demesne attacking after the Druid/mage leaves the room, not mid-combat. If they've left and I'm standing in a hostile demesne, I'm damn sure going to put protection back up. tongue.gif
Shiri2006-01-24 05:08:51
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2006, 05:02 AM)
How is it an upgrade? Druids/Mages have ents too.

Also, your example was the demesne attacking after the Druid/mage leaves the room, not mid-combat. If they've left and I'm standing in a hostile demesne, I'm damn sure going to put protection back up. tongue.gif
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Druid/Mage ents really don't count. dry.gif And it's an upgrade because everyone else would suffer for it. (Unless you just mean the ent thing, in which case it's a downgrade to classes which don't need it, so either way.)

And as for that second thing it didn't make any sense, come again? blink.gif Druids can fight from the next room unless they have dreamweaving, so it's hardly as though they've "left."