Recently, I've been made to exclude Glomdoring enemies from having permissions to enter Deepnight. Last night, I found Celest wanted me to exclude a few people as well. I can see Magnagora doing this in the future sometime as well, perhaps.

As many of you know, the aethercity was created for the players of Lusternia to have a place to have fun in, to not have to worry about getting attacked, and to have cheap custom housing. I pay a portion of every citizen's room even. I cannot use, and do not want, the entire city to myself, though I am content to run it.

My dillema is, after all this money being spent on it, and in game years of working it it and with the people who live in it, people are starting to crack down on security. The only way that Deepnight has prospered whatsoever is because before I had to start excluding people, I would get at least one person a minute coming through the plaza. That's a lot of traffic, and I'm going to guess one of the most traveled locations in the game (especially when I was connected to Serenwilde).

So now I'm left with a place that is going to see less and less traffic, and eventually will probably be forgotten. Any ideas?

I'm assuming the security thang is because they don't want enemied folk popping out of their portals? My understanding is that it isn't terribly difficult to get into a city/commune's portal room, Deepnight or no. I expect my understanding to be incorrect, but if it is correct, then I'm going to use this post to ask why they are requiring this.

EDIT: My understanding's correct, isn't it? My main reason for doubting myself was the nagging "they can't possibly be that dumb" in the back of my mind, but I'm convinced that "they" are.

It's crap that you were cut off from Serenwilde over a misunderstanding You should get it reconnected, complain about what happened before and such

Deepnight is, unfortunately, a huge point of Celestian hypocrisy. I've seen them chase Glomdoring members out of the city just because they're from Glomdoring, but they'll link a Glomdoring manse to their Portal Chamber.

Wait it out a bit, the political climate will change sooner than your city will be forgotten.

I have Malicia filing a petition to get Deepnight disconnected in Celest. Celest is just so damn slow at getting anything done.



Actaully, our policy is pretty much that no tainted person may have a manse that connects to Serenwilde. There isn't much misunderstanding there.

Richter was also a factor in the rebirth of Glomdoring and served as a figurehead. This is why it was disconnected.

Being completely ignorant of all events involved, I think you should tell those not respecting your authoritay to bugger off. As long as you have a good shop or two in there people will probably still pass through.

I was told it was disconnected because Richter was enemied, and that Richter was enemied for raiding Faethorn, which he never did.

Wow.. you have her doing it?

You are not a frick'n Celestian..

This is just like you shouting that you'd stop helping Celest if the Celestines didn't unenemy Munsia.

You say you want people to get better, but you force everyone you can to march to your beat. How do you expect Celest to get any better if you keep forcing them to bow to you?

You need to get your ego under control and either join Celest, or let them be their own organization.

It is a security thing, but it's never been a problem in the past. People just assume raiders are coming from Deepnight, when I've been assured sometimes by the raiders -and- raidees that it was not the case. It makes sense, but was never really an issue before



I've also been threatened to be disconnected because Kurt left a meeting in Deepnight, through the peak Aetherplex, killed someone there, and went back to the meeting. Threatened to be disconnected, because he killed someone not standing in Celest, nor did he use the Celestian connection. After that, I gave up hope that the Celestian administration (or at least the power people) had any brains.



Hrm, maybe. I'm thinking that these regulations however will become a normal thing, I don't see Glomdoring changing.



You're wrong, simply because you don't know enough about the situation to post on the subject.



And doing so will lose me all my links, and lose all my traffic, and then the city will fall into obscurity. It will also force me to keep my store stocked with decent things and charge normal prices for potions. -Also-, it would make it so that people do not have a quick and easy way around the world. That's half the point of my place.



You however, are correct. I was standing in ethereal Glomdoring back when there were a lot of raids. I was enemied, and my link was removed. For standing. In our territory. I've tried to get it back before, but there's not much love between Richter and Nejii/Gregori.

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Wether or not someone likes me is not really the point, the point is that I'm looking for ooc advice on how to fix the problem of my work going down the drain. Deepnight is for you, I don't care if you see it that way or not, or if your character is affiliated with me or not. Having 100 rooms does nothing for me, but it does bring some measure of happiness to a few people. I've been thanked, I've been praised, and I would like to continue to keep it so that my place is a place of learning, and a quick route across the Basin. There's a lot of money that's been put into that place, and I'd hate to see it that I'd have to ban everyone who's enemied to a place that I'm linked to, because unfortunately in Lusternia, mostly everyone is enemied somewhere. Imagine if I disallowed access to anyone who was enemied to Celest, Magnagora, or Glomdoring.

I'd never have anyone there.

Richter, who do you think got pushed to get your manse removed and has made sure it has never been reconnected? I'll give you a hint, his name starts with a "N." I'm fully aware of the situation because I was the one who pressed it initially.

See though, I've played Richter for over a year. And as far as I know, I've been paying attention the entire time. Unless you live in some alternate universe, you're mistaken. Do note, however, that I've been disconnected twice from Serenwilde, and therin may lie your confusion.

I have no power in Celest other than I often help them so I can sneak in a view ideas here and there.

My point, which was discussed with several city members when I flushed out Glomdoring from Celest killing guards, was that given Richter is (to my knowledge) a member of Shikari's Order and Shikari so verbally pressed the "we respond to action with action," it seemed logical to me that Deepnight should be disconnected as it served as a possible route for them to re-enter the city and was thus a breach of security.

Malicia was supposed to follow up because again, I can't do anything in Celest except share some ideas.



Do note I've been a voice for security in Serenwilde for as long as Deepnight has been in creation.

Anyways, the point is that at the moment, no tainted persons are allowed to have manses connected anyways so its a moot topic. If it wasn't already disconnected, it would be.

besides waiting for the time when a community gains from linked manses, and portal rooms become easy to defend, I think your only option is to have really well stocked shop, one that attracts people... or having people who are often hanging out in the manse.


Narsrim, stop, your starting to sound like me

Nope, he isn't.

See, before I thought you might be making things up, but now it's clear you are. Why in Nil would Richter be in Shikari's order? When was the last time you saw him fight? Seeing as how it is public knowledge on the forums several times over that I was Raezon's Voice of Night for twenty or more years... I don't know where this whole Shikari thing came into being.

As to the other point, I'm not arguing about not having a connection to Serenwilde. I'm stressing over the fact that two organizations are imposing restrictions on me, and I'm looking for a solution.

HA!!!!

Richter had 0 connection to that attack. I used Ialie's AND Niara's manse to attack celest and kill thier guards. To this day I can still enter celest from the portals... what a load of crock.

Richter, when the government makes certain markets illegal, the good companies find a new niche for itself, working on the name recognition to keep the new product in the eyes of the public... But I'm sure you allreayd knew that.

Yeah, this is one of the issues, and actually the one I referenced earlier. It shows how people who don't know jack about a situation can wave their respective genitalia about in some kind of freakish display of their meager intellect.

Yeah, I know that, but there was already trouble getting support, and maintaining interest. Now I think it will be much harder. Sure, I'll keep the place running, but it's almost worth it to have all links removed and all permissions reinstated. I guess we'll see what the future holds.

And you're not the first to have their manse disconnected from the Serenwilde. Can't recall names, but I'm certain of at least one, possibly two, others who were disconnected when they moved to Glomdoring and/or Magnagora. So it's standard procedure, though perhaps doing so is another thing people are going to say we should explicitly spell out, so it doesn't surprise/shock/horrify/outrage them when action is taken regarding something that wasn't specifically mentioned somewhere.

Maybe everyone should stop being a prick and stop using manses to attack people.