I want to make a pwning debating machine alt, but I have one question: Does the Tae'dae slower equilibrium regain affect debating? Else I'll go Glom Faeling probably...

sadly, it does.

Uhh...

It was changed to not be reliant on EQ bonus/penalty, but just charisma...

I know thats what they said, but my 19 charisma tae'dae was slower than my 16 charisma human.

There is a lovely BUG command.

I'm hoping you used it.

I don't think its a bug, I believe charisma just plays a "larger" factor than the eq bonus does.

its ironic because I remember tae'dae got the eq penalty because of odd situation of a tae'dae spellcaster being too good.

No, I'm pretty sure debating speed was changed to soley depend upon charisma (or max ego? ) so you might want to bug that

erm, are you talking about debating or influencing?

I'm talking about using the skill "beg"

It's all supposed to be effected by charisma, not eq gain / penalty, as you even stated above.

If it's not working the way they said it was working, then I do hope you BUGged it.

Influence and debate are both supposed to rely entirely upon charisma. With that in mind, Tae'dae and Faeling are pretty much tied for best - Faeling have an extra charisma, but Tae'dae have one more level of sip bonus for their bromides.

And the cap for speed is 23 charisma. Hajamin posted all of this somewhere on forums. *sniffle*

I would also note as a Mugwump with 13 charisma, I influenced at the speed of sloth. At a human with 17 (and -3 equilibrium bonus relative to Mugwump), I'm insanely faster.