Murphy2006-04-28 05:09:57
I know its a bit soon, but I can see a problem with mindblast being based off your ego. Here are some reasons why, feel free to discuss.
1. IRE games never have had a skill that does more damage per level. I've always liked it because you can hit hard without spending all your life bashing.
2. Artifacts like torcs affect your damage because they boost your ego.
3. Titans and Demigods getting it not only get the extra boost from charisma but from their level.
My suggestion to fix this would be to base it off your charisma and have it work like staffcasts do from int. Its early to dump on the idea but i can see imbalances now already on it. I'd like to be able to play a mage and maybe be a telepath but having your attack power based off your level belongs in world of warcraft rather than this awesome game
1. IRE games never have had a skill that does more damage per level. I've always liked it because you can hit hard without spending all your life bashing.
2. Artifacts like torcs affect your damage because they boost your ego.
3. Titans and Demigods getting it not only get the extra boost from charisma but from their level.
My suggestion to fix this would be to base it off your charisma and have it work like staffcasts do from int. Its early to dump on the idea but i can see imbalances now already on it. I'd like to be able to play a mage and maybe be a telepath but having your attack power based off your level belongs in world of warcraft rather than this awesome game
Narsrim2006-04-28 05:22:40
Heh. I wasn't going to say anything because people normally flame anything I do but, Murphy is 100% correct. I got owned by mindblast earlier. I was taking like 1200 damage, 1000 mana, and 1100 ego damage every 6 seconds. That's pretty damn hard to keep up with in a demesne that's already doing over 1000 damage, stunning, knocking prone, etc. and 2 other channels afflicting you.... and you can be killed if you ego drops below half instantly.
Plus, you can't even shield against it.
Plus, you can't even shield against it.
Drago2006-04-28 05:26:01
Like this?
QUOTE
4753h, 1634m, 2577e, 10p, 17433en elrxk-
A blinding pain explodes behind your eyes, which begin to tear up with blood.
2740h, 781m, 1712e, 10p, 17433en elrxk-
A blinding pain explodes behind your eyes, which begin to tear up with blood.
2740h, 781m, 1712e, 10p, 17433en elrxk-
Murphy2006-04-28 05:27:01
well i wasn't going to say anything about the fact its hard to sip that much, but i've been taking over 50% max hp from mindblast, then the ego and mana working up too. In a demesne it's really nasty but its a bit much out of demesne too. Basing it off max ego boosts up too much cause you can already get insane amounts of ego.
My personal belief it should be based of charisma.
My personal belief it should be based of charisma.
Terenas2006-04-28 05:27:21
Goddamn, 2k damage unblockable attack?
Narsrim2006-04-28 05:32:32
Charisma is also the easiest stat to buff. Athana has had 26 charisma before...
Just imagine:
mindblast, rockslide... that could literally kill some people instantly (like say level 60-70 ish persons)
Just imagine:
mindblast, rockslide... that could literally kill some people instantly (like say level 60-70 ish persons)
Revan2006-04-28 05:38:22
Narsrim, you're in no position to complain: you do more than 2000 damage in one hit! And honestly, you're talking about Athana, a titan. Kaervas' staff does more!
EDIT: Edited for personal attacks etc. ~Shiri~
EDIT: Edited for personal attacks etc. ~Shiri~
Narsrim2006-04-28 05:38:52
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 28 2006, 01:36 AM) 283193
nARSRIM, YOU DO 2K DAMAGE IN less THAN 6 SECONDS, AND OU'RE COMPLAINING!? scrw that man... just stop... shut your damn hole! go away... you biased person.., god damn, we get a good upgrade and you... just GO AWAY!~!~!
Do I do 2000 damage, 1000 mana, 1000 ego (through shield), 2 afflictions, 1000+ passive damage, knock prone, break limbs, make you hungry, blind you, stun, give a -1 sip penalty, etc. No.
Yrael2006-04-28 05:38:58
Wha.. wha?
Narsrim2006-04-28 05:39:49
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 28 2006, 01:38 AM) 283193
And honestly... you're talking about ATHAN! A TITAN!!!! kaervas' STAFF does more!! god dammit, you people are so stupid. SHUT UP!
Zomg, no you are /retarded.
See what I mean? Something that is clearly op is flamed because I opted to post. And FYI Revan, if Athana (a titan) can get 26 charisma, then anyone else can get 24.
Revan2006-04-28 05:42:22
Then get 24 charisma and be quiet.
Murphy2006-04-28 05:44:05
that's as a faeling you can get to 24 cha.
Faelings are brittle, and have no speed/balance increase. It should be based off charisma, and the ability to buff charisma needs to be toned down just a little, then it'll be fine.
Faelings are brittle, and have no speed/balance increase. It should be based off charisma, and the ability to buff charisma needs to be toned down just a little, then it'll be fine.
Murphy2006-04-28 05:47:45
ok lets settle down.
I believe with psionics a geomancer is like a sylvan in achaea. Good out of grove, insane in grove. Demesnes do hit hard, but with a few little changes they can be like groves.
Anyway, good geomancers will fight you out of demesne, and should be able to kill you if they have the skill to do so.
I believe with psionics a geomancer is like a sylvan in achaea. Good out of grove, insane in grove. Demesnes do hit hard, but with a few little changes they can be like groves.
Anyway, good geomancers will fight you out of demesne, and should be able to kill you if they have the skill to do so.
Revan2006-04-28 05:50:04
Exactly. I'm a damn good geo, and I've been fighting out of a demesne. Hey Nars, if you think I'm overpowered, then fight me out of a demesne. Until then, be quiet: Athana is a frickin' titan. The admins have set it so that they get bonuses. Go away if you can't handle that.
EDIT: Edited to make sense and not have any personal attacks. ~Shiri~
EDIT: Edited to make sense and not have any personal attacks. ~Shiri~
Terenas2006-04-28 05:53:45
How can you justify something like MindBlast? Wasn't PsyVamp bad enough when it drained 3k WP per hit but you still abused it. Now you want to keep something clearly just as overpowered?
Revan2006-04-28 05:54:49
The fact that you can kill most people in 2-3 hits outweighs your logic, Terenas.
Terenas2006-04-28 05:57:05
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 28 2006, 05:54 AM) 283205
The fact that you can kill most people in 2-3 hits outweighs your logic, Terenas.
That's news to me since I do 1k top with my broads against non-warriors.
Saran2006-04-28 06:17:55
It's amazing how fast this has degenerated. Though this seems a "tad" overpowered
Laysus2006-04-28 06:27:16
Revan just doesn't like getting nerfed. He might actually have to learn to fight.
Yeah, it's 7:30am, I haven't slept. Go go bitchy laysus!
Yeah, it's 7:30am, I haven't slept. Go go bitchy laysus!
Yrael2006-04-28 06:32:27
Wow, Laysus! Without your ents, you might have to learn to fight in a normal way too! Hey, that'd be funny, not being able to passively kill someone with an auto-aeon system!