Ok, so I know I messed up regeneration curing due to a typo, and missed dysentery curing. Oh, and at first my idiot self forgot to turn my autosipper on. But other than that I think I did alright, didn't expect to last so long, actually.

Anyhow, tips? Pointers? It's hard for me to imagine how it's possible for me to ever beat Daevos, considering that ungodly sword and unbelievable strength of his, but I'd like to hear some thoughts.

Oh, and I just added some stuff to my system to track target wound curing, figured it'd help.

I would work on curing wound damage.. 5k damage on almost all your limbs is just OUCH.

Well, yes, after that long a time fighting someone like Daevos crazy wounds like that are inevitable. His sword did 1017 wounds damage per swing, and 1100 normal damage. I cure 750 wounds per health application, and sip for 700 health surged. If you noticed, I used numen for most of the latter half of the fight, halving the damage. Also used puer to heal 1000ish wounds per cast.

Basically, it's ridiculously difficult to keep up with the damage and wounds output Daevos can mete out. I've heard he can get up to what, 25 str at night? It's gross.

Oh, and 5kish wounds from a fight isn't that ludicrous. I've seen much much worse. Stupid warrior random afflictions, sometimes it takes me like 30 smite downs after critical wounds (roughly 3500) to get a brain bash.

Against daevos you really have to get on some sneaky head shots.

You also -have- to puer your limbs, but here's what you should try and do.

Save your power and manipulate his parry, if you have to envenom up with charybdon and try for chest gut and legs and head and hit him a lot of times, get some smaller shots in, if you can get 2 shots that give breaknose (i used that as a marker) go for 4 crushes straight up to the noggin, then go for a crush leg (which you should already hopefully have wounded a little bit) get yourself a knockdown, and then smitedown for the bashbrains. That's how i always used to do it.


On another note you could always go strike chest smite down if he's not parrying it, as you can get a good stun to the chest to prevent a parry

Not anymore. Him being titan pretty much means jack crap in combat as a knight. He hits the buffs cap at night already.

I'm pretty sure 5k damage to the head is grounds for the move "BEHEAD" I think it even starts at 4k. Slice tendon is at what, 2k for legs since it can be executed with medium wounds as a pureblade?

You really really need to watch for your wounds and apply health where you can, use puer like Murph said too.

Isn't the buffs cap +5 to the stat, not +5 weight? How does he have that much weight before Titan? Isn't it like 8 weight to hit +5?

Flex +3 (Murphy said it went up one?)
Geburah +1
Titan +2
Lich +2

That's 8 with Titan, which should put him at the cap of +5 strength

or am I totally misunderstanding how this new system works?

You have it right, he gets +5.

That's correct.

But Ixion said his Titan status means nothing now.. I'd say an extra 2 weight, allowing him to reach +5 is something.

Yeah, he means Titan means nothing...

Pre Buff Nerf:
Flex +2
Geburah +1
Lich +2

Daevos would have been at +5... since he is a titan he would have been +7

Post Buff Nerf:
Flex +3
Geburah +1
Titan +2
Lich +2

Daveos would still be +5 thus making being a titan useless... on the buff aspect. I can pull this off if I try, I would just need to get a herofete and a good fortuna... so there is no difference from a normal mortal vs titan in the stats aspect.

Think of it this way, when you reach great hieghts and circles in Lusternia, would you expect someone say Circle 60 to be able to be as buff as you are? They haven't worked as hard as you.. yet they can be as strong as you? Yet if you die, the amount of essence that you have to regain is ridiculous, compared to someone at circle 60. Why not make a level 60 death cost almost 300k essence, or make a Titan death cost the 20 or so essence that a circle 60 uses when he dies? I mean everyone wants it to be so even?

Yes, I am arguing on just this one point... no need to say they get other skills, I just don't see me walking into a Tavern in Magnagora and thinking it's ok to pick a fight with someone known to be a titan. I would instantly assume they are much stronger than I am. I don't know, from an RP stand point making a titan weaker in this aspect, I do not agree with.

A lucky fortuna that lasts an hour.. and a herofete that requires at least 10 people present to pull off, as well as a transcendant cook.

Sure, you could manage the exact same thing, but with a lot more effort. Titans and Demigods are simply naturally more powerful.

Like, I wouldn't want to go into a bar and pick a fight with a known bodybuilder... however, pump me full of certain drugs and my body will be so out of whack that i'll easily be a match for his strength.

Its the same premise. There are always going to be shortcuts, but, having it innately is pretty damn useful. For example, once he reaches Demigod, he won't have to use Geburah, thus saving power (and can raise Geburah to protect against Enfeeble instead, thus gaining a defence that you don't have)

And you can't forget that Titan boosts all of his stats. And in those stats that don't have quite as many major boosts, he will be stronger than you're likely going to be. Just not necessarily in strength.

I guess I have it lucky, herofetes are pretty common, I don't buy the if I am pumped up full of drugs part, it may make you feel like you could be as strong... but all in all you will probably get yer ass beatdown. Feeling strong and being strong are different. Unless you are referring to PCP or something where people tend to have some superhuman str at times. But that isn't happening all the time.. so I can't conced to that logic

Yes they get other stat buff's but since we are speaking more on a warrior titan, str is one of the key issues to how strong his attack is. Only reason I am working on that stat mainly and it appears to be an important stat since it has the most spells for it (i think) except maybe cha.. that has a lot of buff spells too

Yes. 5k is grounds for a behead. If you read my post more clearly, you will see where I said 3500 is roughly critical wounds. However, random warrior afflictions make it hard to pull off even with nasty wounds.

As well, if you read the combat log more closely, you would've noticed that I did use Puer, a lot. However, I only used it on my head, as he kept getting wounds up to dangerous levels there, and I did not want to get beheaded if he beats my parry. Murphy was saying to use it on my other limbs as well, which is useful advice.

My system does track and cure wounds, however, it is hard to do so when struggling to stay alive and constantly having to sip health, thus not being able to apply health. The only modification I can do to my system that'll make it better at wounds curing is set priorities on limbs, maybe make a visual wounds tracker like Amaru's, then set curing priorities (wounds, health, mana, ego) that I can switch on and off. But I'm lazy. And on vacation.

So please, don't assume I don't know about fighting simply if you only skimmed the log and saw the wounds reports with the those numbers. If I had more health so I don't have to spend all my time curing damage, and without the aslaran sip penalty, maybe I'd do better against those wounds. Yet again, it's Daevos, and his crazy strong sword. This was before all the stat modifier changes, so the titan bonuses are still applicable.

I'm not saying it's unfair, he earned every right to that sword and his stats. I just wanna know how to beat it

Wasn't assumption. You had plenty of grounds to apply health to limbs in that fight. Don't get snappy at me because I made a suggestion, you post, I reply, fair enough i'd think?

Sparkleberry can cover your health damage while you apply health to a limb.



Finally you heal. So umm, you are the one assuming? Or telling a lie? You have work to do.

From the looks of the log, you would have stomped Daevos had you been on top of applications and eating sparkleberry and actually sipping.

I think that explains that. Without it on, it neither cures wounds, nor sips. Hence the two score checks, I had thought that maybe it missed getting the max health/mana/ego values, so I tried to catch em again.

That was early in the fight, I fixed it, cured up, started attacking Daevos again. We lost sight of each other a lil bit in, I think we both cured up for the most part, then we started at it again. At that point is when my healing/wound curing failed to keep up with his damage/wounds output.

Oh, and I only sparkleberry for 500, surged. That's only half of what Daevos does with his sword. And then wound curing for 750 leaves 250 wounds still. Add in affliction curing, and it's a royal pain keeping up.

Eh, sorry if I sounded snippy. I just hate being patronized, given that I think i've done a pretty damn good job in whipping myself into shape, given that most of the big names have had a full year's worth of time more than I, and this is my first MUD ever.

Pretty impressive. Looks like you only cure the knight afflictions (bisep, tendons, scalping) upon diagnosing though, using precious equilibrium that you could be using to maintain your offense. Also looks like some of your misses and parries didn't echo, as well as a few other things, so you may want to work on those as that seems to be the effect you're going for. Maybe echo numen fading. I'd also consider clotting less when your health is over a certain amount and/or when your mana is below a certain point. At more then one point you had under 1k mana, and went below 400, which always makes me nervous. A couple times you sipped mana when applying health might have been more appropriate, but that could be the mage in me speaking.

Again, good fight. Wish I could last that long against Daevos. We'll have to spar again some time

Edit: Love your nyah and skip triggers in responce to parries and whiffs

I am glad that I am not the only warrior who misses half the time. Daevos does as well!

It must be either a two-handers thing, or a result of mediocre dexterity.

Heh, you're right about all the missing triggers, but I think that partly has to do with Daevos' sword name. With his unique titling, I think it splits my trigger lines up. I need to go through them again and make em as short as possible without compromising them. Also, partial parries and weird things like that mess with me.

Oh, and I have Numen fading highlighted.

The clotting and mana thing...you have a good point. I think I currently have it where it doesn't begin the clotting process below half mana, but when I bleed for 500 damage it makes me clot, a lot, and the way I have it set it doesn't halt mid-way if I go below a certain mana threshold. I should fix that... Maybe when I re-work my curing priorities I'll take another look at it.

My favorite emote trigger is when an opponent hits my rebounding. I get an echo that says something like "Suckah hit your rebounding! Point and laugh, point and laugh!!" And then, I point and laugh.

You seemed to do everything alright aside from what youve already pointed out minor curing things, mainly get your tendon curing fixed as fast as you can thats what killed you really if you'd have applied as he struck you would have been able to hop back up easily parry head and carried on the fight for ages.