Raziela's death.

by Soll

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Soll2006-07-13 23:50:07
Could some Magnagoran's post a log of the fight, please? We're finding it hard to wrap our heads around how she died without us noticing.
Unknown2006-07-13 23:52:20
QUOTE(Soll @ Jul 13 2006, 11:50 PM) 307463

Could some Magnagoran's post a log of the fight, please? We're finding it hard to wrap our heads around how she died without us noticing.


It took roughly 5 seconds for her to die... I was surprised.
Soll2006-07-13 23:52:43
That sounds reeeally suspicious. And irritating. Could someone still post a log? Alongside that, she attacked us twice in about one minute.

I'm really not going to be comfortable with this until I see a log. sad.gif Even if you did have a huge number of people there.
Daganev2006-07-13 23:59:54
Well, that just takes all the fun out of the game....


Ixion2006-07-14 00:01:27
She died because we had amazing planning. As I said in another thread, that's the difference between killing and being owned instantly by the supernals/demonlords.

We spent about three hours prepping for that battle.
Soll2006-07-14 00:03:07
Please, do show your attack, then.
Daganev2006-07-14 00:03:15
Please, do NOT post a log.

People need to learn mystery and confusion in game.
Soll2006-07-14 00:04:07
Daganev, Raziela can only have lasted a few seconds against them. That just makes me really uncomfortable. Especially since it's been raised lately that all the other Supernals received buffed damage, but since Raziela deals mainly in afflictions, her buffs were mostly unnoticeable. Thus, She's the weakest Supranatural being and we just lost 1000 power because of this. Whereas, Gorgulu(Magnagora's Demon Lord that isn't defended by someone else, similar to Raziela) does a huge amount of damage.
Vauraugli2006-07-14 00:10:36
Oh, come on. It was at least thirty seconds before she died.

But I tend to agree with daganev. Would you guys post a log if a Demon Lord was slain? Though I doubt any mags would ask for that kind of thing.
Vauraugli2006-07-14 00:11:06
edit, oops.
Ixion2006-07-14 00:19:50
QUOTE(Soll @ Jul 13 2006, 08:04 PM) 307476

Daganev, Raziela can only have lasted a few seconds against them. That just makes me really uncomfortable. Especially since it's been raised lately that all the other Supernals received buffed damage, but since Raziela deals mainly in afflictions, her buffs were mostly unnoticeable. Thus, She's the weakest Supranatural being and we just lost 1000 power because of this. Whereas, Gorgulu(Magnagora's Demon Lord that isn't defended by someone else, similar to Raziela) does a huge amount of damage.


We did not post any logs when we died about INSTANTLY the two other times we've attacked Raziela, who by the way has the best 'attack' (I'm not explaining that either, though it isn't hard to figure out) possible. What makes you think we're going to explain how, this third time, we achieved victory.

Sorry, we're not going to tell you.
Unknown2006-07-14 00:23:41
Why do you care? She'll be back in two hours and you'll have returned the lost supplicants and power a day from now.
Nico2006-07-14 00:24:02
The point isn't "Ooooh, can we take a gander at your amazing tactics so we know how to do it ourselves??". The point is that something seems amazingly wrong for a party of people, and some pretty low ranking ones at that (Heck, Kissos is still unranked), to be able to take out any supernal OR demonlord in 30 seconds and without losing a single person. I mean, come on, that's just not supposed to happen, REGARDLESS of your 'excellent tactics and planning'. It's a censor.gif supernal.
Ixion2006-07-14 00:26:44
Raziela never hit Kissos.. ever think about that?
Daganev2006-07-14 00:27:29
They used 18 people... anything should be able to be done with 15 pepole working togetehr. I don't think its that big of a deal that they need to make you feel better by knowing how it happened.

If there was an abuse, I'm sure Charune or Terentia will fix it.
Ixion2006-07-14 00:28:39
By abuse, you mean bug/misweave, Daganev.
Soll2006-07-14 00:30:04
Yeah, I have no belief that Magnagora abused anything here, but it seems possible that Raziela had a sub-standard amount of health, or was doing sub-standard damage. In no way do I think Magnagora set out to abuse anything. All I'd like to know is that Magnagora notices that something may be wrong, and bugs it so it can be looked at. I also hope that Terentia or a God has read this and is considering looking into it.


Daganev2006-07-14 00:33:13
QUOTE(Ixion @ Jul 13 2006, 05:28 PM) 307488

By abuse, you mean bug/misweave, Daganev.



Right, I ment something wrong with the way the Supernals were working, and teh speed at which the power was being drained.
Unknown2006-07-14 00:33:33
QUOTE(Soll @ Jul 14 2006, 12:30 AM) 307489

Yeah, I have no belief that Magnagora abused anything here, but it seems possible that Raziela had a sub-standard amount of health, or was doing sub-standard damage. In no way do I think Magnagora set out to abuse anything.


Please, it isn't very hard to imagine that 18 people, a few of which are top-notch could take out a supernal. glare.gif
Soll2006-07-14 00:35:43
It's more the time that I have an issue with. It just seems like the whole thing was done incredibly quickly, and especially without a single death. If Stagar is right, she would have got in about two attacks. If the same group the just killed Raziela attacked Gorgulu, I doubt it would not have been so fast, nor so cleanly finished, and that someone would have died and allowed the whole of Magnagora to be alerted.