Being on fire

by Gandal

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Gandal2006-10-03 04:22:20
Just curious, what the heck does being on fire do? Gorgogs set me on fire and nothing happens...is it just a waste of a frost vial to keep on sipping whenever I'm set on fire? I'm confused, please help.
Acrune2006-10-03 04:38:31
QUOTE(Gandal @ Oct 3 2006, 12:22 AM) 338122

Just curious, what the heck does being on fire do? Gorgogs set me on fire and nothing happens...is it just a waste of a frost vial to keep on sipping whenever I'm set on fire? I'm confused, please help.


For some reason, gorgogs set you on fire but it does nothing. When players set you on fire, you do actually take damage periodically. But no one ever sets other people on fire, because its so easily cured.
Geb2006-10-03 07:04:09
Ever since Thornrend has gone in, the on fire state seems to have become temporary. It only seems to last one cycle of it hitting, and then goes out on its own.
Ekard2006-10-03 07:53:27
I do not remember if on fire from gorgogs worked before that, but i do not think so.
Tervic2006-10-03 09:07:36
Fire damage is so negligible that I ran around on fire just because it was funny on principle. This was during one of my character's more insane moments when he actually enjoyed stupid stuff like that. Of course, being married changes a LOT of things laugh.gif
Unknown2006-10-03 09:19:49
I think we should make a new basic command in case you ran out of frost vials or no nearby water source, this will take balance and leave you sprawling on the ground.

STOP
DROP
ROLL

tongue.gif
Shiri2006-10-03 12:47:17
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 3 2006, 08:04 AM) 338179

Ever since Thornrend has gone in, the on fire state seems to have become temporary. It only seems to last one cycle of it hitting, and then goes out on its own.


I'm pretty sure it's been like that since the start of Lusternia.
Geb2006-10-03 13:02:21
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 3 2006, 01:47 PM) 338229

I'm pretty sure it's been like that since the start of Lusternia.


No, it was not. I use to test fire damge on myself, and the fire never went out before I sipped frost. I would remain on fire for as long as I did not cure it.
Shiri2006-10-03 13:27:29
I never tried it on myself, but it always got cured -really- fast if something else did it to me.

EDIT: That might be part of it actually: I seem to remember someone saying it had a flag that meant the fire went out if the person left, so it would always go out on the next tick from mobs. I can't imagine why that would have applied to other people though, but I'm sure it did.
Unknown2006-10-03 13:31:09
I've always found being set ablaze by mobs disappeared the next tic before it could do anything (the obesefessors, for example), but walking through a firewall set you ablaze and it continued to do minor damage until you put it out.

I wish firewalls did a lot more. sad.gif

And we could set briars alight, so you could get entangled in burning thorns. fear.gif
Unknown2006-10-03 16:17:38
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 3 2006, 02:02 PM) 338233

No, it was not. I use to test fire damge on myself, and the fire never went out before I sipped frost. I would remain on fire for as long as I did not cure it.


Well it has probably been like this for longer, but it during the second dark spirits event, when they started setting seren on fire, it set me alight, and then either went out on the next tic, or did one tic of damage and then went out on the next. dunno.gif
Tervic2006-10-03 16:53:55
QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 3 2006, 06:31 AM) 338238
I've always found being set ablaze by mobs disappeared the next tic before it could do anything (the obesefessors, for example), but walking through a firewall set you ablaze and it continued to do minor damage until you put it out.

I wish firewalls did a lot more. sad.gif

And we could set briars alight, so you could get entangled in burning thorns. fear.gif


But then they'd be ashy and crumbly and not very good at the entangly.
Shorlen2006-10-03 17:04:58
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 3 2006, 03:04 AM) 338179
Ever since Thornrend has gone in, the on fire state seems to have become temporary. It only seems to last one cycle of it hitting, and then goes out on its own.

Fire from rooms that were ablaze went out on its own before causing any harm, and fire from gorgogs did the same, both loooong before Thornrend was added. Firewalls have always actually set me on fire properly.
Tiran2006-10-03 17:12:21
I'd have to check, but I think it has something to do with the frost defence. If you have sipped frost before being lit on fire, then you are "tempered against fire damage" and fire always seems to go out on the next tick (I need to check with firewalls though). However, cold based attacks that chill you strip fire defence, whereas fire based attacks that ignite you do not seem to strip frost defence. This may be an oversight in the original implementation if that's the case.
Unknown2006-10-03 18:02:24
QUOTE(Tervic @ Oct 3 2006, 05:53 PM) 338278

But then they'd be ashy and crumbly and not very good at the entangly.


Which is the basis igniting briars works on tongue.gif
Shorlen2006-10-03 19:06:21
QUOTE(Tiran @ Oct 3 2006, 01:12 PM) 338285
I'd have to check, but I think it has something to do with the frost defence. If you have sipped frost before being lit on fire, then you are "tempered against fire damage" and fire always seems to go out on the next tick (I need to check with firewalls though). However, cold based attacks that chill you strip fire defence, whereas fire based attacks that ignite you do not seem to strip frost defence. This may be an oversight in the original implementation if that's the case.

Fire potion is a one-shot immunity to chill effects.
Frost potion is not a one shot resistance to blaze effects.
Frost potion gives 10% damage resistance from fire element attacks.
Acrune2006-10-03 19:26:43
QUOTE(Tiran @ Oct 3 2006, 01:12 PM) 338285

I'd have to check, but I think it has something to do with the frost defence. If you have sipped frost before being lit on fire, then you are "tempered against fire damage" and fire always seems to go out on the next tick (I need to check with firewalls though). However, cold based attacks that chill you strip fire defence, whereas fire based attacks that ignite you do not seem to strip frost defence. This may be an oversight in the original implementation if that's the case.


I don't drink frost when hunting gorgogs, their fire goes out by itself, and always has.
Tiran2006-10-03 20:12:38
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Oct 3 2006, 01:06 PM) 338301

Fire potion is a one-shot immunity to chill effects.
Frost potion is not a one shot resistance to blaze effects.
Frost potion gives 10% damage resistance from fire element attacks.



QUOTE(Acrune @ Oct 3 2006, 01:26 PM) 338310

I don't drink frost when hunting gorgogs, their fire goes out by itself, and always has.


Hmm. I'd always assumed that it was the frost vial putting it it out when I was out hunting gorgogs. Guses I'm wrong there.

Time to go play with more firewalls.
Shorlen2006-10-03 20:20:05
QUOTE(Tiran @ Oct 3 2006, 04:12 PM) 338331
Hmm. I'd always assumed that it was the frost vial putting it it out when I was out hunting gorgogs. Guses I'm wrong there.

Time to go play with more firewalls.

Gorgogs are bugged, always have been.
Melanchthon2006-10-03 21:30:43
QUOTE(geb @ Oct 3 2006, 01:02 PM) 338233

No, it was not. I use to test fire damge on myself, and the fire never went out before I sipped frost. I would remain on fire for as long as I did not cure it.

I remember this, too. Remember waaay back in the beginning, when frost fills were either unavailable or bugged, and people were burning to death all over the place because being on fire both did real damage and lasted until actively cured? I remember seeing whole groups of people die to 'the soul of blah' because they ran through a firewall after someone had killed the perpetrator for casting it laugh.gif

Speculation, but maybe this is all due to some coding from back then that never got a second look at?

After all this happened and was fixed, I can't actually recall an instance of being on fire doing anything other than make a pretty message when it went out on its own a tic later. Could of course just be coincidence.

I also remember seeing 126/124 chainmail back then. Those were the days...