Something interesting in the latest IRE newsletter...



Things that make you go Hmmm...

This might just be a way to centrally manage an account. But I could see some interesting ideas.

* A way for players to trade credits from game to game, which is done "unofficially" anyway.
* Maybe an OOC chat room before deploying, to have an "official" area to discuss these things, replacing IRC
* Or...maybe thus comes character transfer or a "multiverse"...

Just thought this was pretty interesting.

I didn't notice that the first time I read it. Neat.

Wonder how the credit market would be affected if there was a meta-market for exchanging one games credits with another games. It seems to be valued as there's a lot of back and forth between games amongst the player base.

(They'd have to be distinctive somehow since it's how income is calculated per game).

A meta-credit market would wreak havoc with all 4 economies. They all have different average credit prices, they all have dfferent econoies anyway, they all have different ways of making gold, etc. For example, it's far easier to make gold as a young Lusternian Celestian than it is as an Imperian Kinsarmarian.

I assume it will just let you transfer credits you buy between your charachters. So when there is a 20% sale you can buy 5000 credits, then give each char 1000 of them with the nice bonus

Each game is a different "company" and the credits are purchased separately, so it would be quite a pain to make a master-account with all the credits then each time the player transfers them to a character account that as credits sold by that game (player migth have bought at a sale and out of a sale, and transferred them to lusternia out of the sale, wich is the price of the credit in $, are they "sale" credits or "normal credits"?) and tax wise.

My guess it'll be just a master account where you log in and can access all your chars without having to retype passwords and registry info and updating it all in just one place instead of in every and each of your chars each time you change your email.

QFT

That would be awful.

I think it's probably what Iridiel said, plus it'll probably work to draw people from one of the muds to it, and vice versa, possibly getting more people interested in one thing or the other.

By the way, why was this posted here and not in the real world section?

That would be convenient for the players but a pain in the arse for the parent company, so it's not going to happen. Don't even get me started on the sheer idiocy that a credit market between games would be.

You can't replace IRC because it's unofficial, hence better than anything IRE could manage. And chatting through telnet is pointless when we have better, more robust protocols for that (Namely, IRC).

That would be impossible to implement and would wreck so much havoc on all games it's obviously never going to happen.

If that were to ever happen 'somehow', do you know how much horrible ruination would descend upon us all?

Ashtani Occultist: lolz dark forest awsum.

Or WORSE.

Eleusians: HERBS....HERBS..precious..HERBSES... We're not even talking about all the emopire mudsexxors that would enter the Basin.

Not sure it would be idiotic, any more than the "unofficial" method is. If you could have a market, you could have a meta-market.



Ah, but unofficial has it's drawbacks. There's a reason why the IRC link was removed from Lusternia's web site. If IRC turns into a place where people just bitch and moan about the game, they can ban people who turn into trolls. Furthermore, you can ban people like the ex-employee who was trying to recruit people to the other game and probably violating his NDA in telling tales about the admin.

I do think it's of benefit for IRE to have their own Chat room just like they have their own forums. And you can control things like language for people who don't want to sit through sex jokes and the like.



Well, since Matt can't speak about the cool things coming, we can't speak with absolute certainty.

They could replace IRC, there used to be no official forums for achaea remember there were some popular unofficial ones though but by making an official achaea forum it basically ment they removed or killed the need for the unofficial one and everyone just used the official one instead which was better for achacea because then they could delete and mod away anything they didn't like said about them on the forums. They could do the same with IRC.

They could kill the need for the unofficial one but people would probably still go to it. I think a more moderated chat room is worse than a more moderated forum.

People stopped going to the unofficial forums though, so I figure people would stop going to the unoffical chat room if there was an offical one around.

Like other people have said, gold in some games is a lot easier to get than in others. All four games would either suffer hyperinflation or a credit market crash. Transferring credits between games is one thing; players in Lusternia buying credits from Achaeans for Lusternian gold would wreck the economy.

We all know you hate IRC because... well I have no idea. There's no need to jab at it because you think players shouldn't be able to talk about the game outside the oversight of The Company.

Censorship is bad, mmhmkay?

There allready is a Between Game Credit Market...

I didn't say that Verithrax.

At one time, the IRC room was considered "official", at least as much as they could make it. And I used to be in there.

However, when I saw that they allowed a fired employee to come in and chat, without alerting IRE what was up, I became concerned. In the past, an admin would pop in and say "don't allow these people in the chat room, since we banned them from the game", and there was agreement to do that. Why didn't any of you guys alert the administration about that, if you were so supportive of the game?

I noticed a lot of pressure to recruit people like me to his new game. I also noticed a lot of discussion in IRE about who was what god, who became an ephemeral, etc, that I didn't think belonged in the chat room.

I felt some of you guys were using the existence of the chatroom to just bash the game, and when the people who created this game put a link to on your site, it was just disrespectful. And that's why I recommend they remove the link.

I have no problem with an IRC room in general, especially if it's supported by the game. And I'm not trying to lump the whole of IRC user-base into that.

My whole point is that an official chat room or chat server makes a lot of sense for IRE in general.



Not necessarily. The fact we can't swear in this forum doesn't make it a bad forum. The fact that the administration don't discuss godly matters with us mortals doesn't make it a bad forum.

Clearly an officially endorsed chat room where everyone bad mouths the game is bad for the game. How is this something that needs to be argued over?


Anyway.. has anyone else noticed that Verithrax is suddenly becoming awfully left wing. It strikes me as a relatively new change.

The guy who hates evil corporations and pushes free software? Maybe I wasn't seeing the same side of him you were, but he's never struck me as remotely right-leaning.

If you want to think about it like this, unoffical place to chat about the game is like a free press, you can state your real opinion and anything you like about the game, offical place to chat about the game is like a goverment controled press nothing but what the head wants you to hear will get put in. Unoffical forms and chat would be better for discussing aspects about the game but official will generally always beat it out because its official.