Currently, Krellan has Nature Guarded nearly (if not all) every sparkleberry plant in Astral. After a lengthy argument over the Dawn Brigade aethers where the Brigade decided to roll over and not care, I've decided to take my idea here to solve the problem and see what others think about it.

Currently, Nature Guard lasts a year (yes?). Which means waiting around for it to wear off and hope you get it before Krellan (who has a gem and a cubix) is not an option. Similarly, trading with Krellan is not an option, at least for any Celestian with even a middling sense of morality. Thus, I came up with a plan to solve the problem, albeit a time consuming one.

Original Plan:
Flood room. Plant dies. Unflood room. Replant. Have someone trustworthy to nature guard to prevent said problem again.

- Lysandus suggests that it would not be possible because you must replant within 45 seconds, and you cannot use a sparkleberry out of the rift to replant. And if all of the plants on Astral are nature guarded by Krellan, you can't get any fresh ones. Thus you can kill them all, but you cannot replant them. He insists they would go extinct. Is this true? Sounds wrong to me.

Redone Plan:
Flood room. Plant dies. Unflood room. Have an Ecologist use that refresh ground thingy, causing a plant (mistletoe or sparkleberry) to pop back up. Have someone trustworthy nature guard to prevent said problem again.

Problem: Costs five power to refresh the ground. Was already time consuming, now is power consuming.

Thoughts? Feelings? Unlikely to work? No solution?

I think this is something that should be handled ICly.

Sheesh Genevieve, must this be taken to the Forums?

EDIT:
If you want, take this to the Mythbusters section so that people can see if this is busted, plausable or confirmed.

If your people won't back you, do it on your own. Hell flood it and make them extinct. You will catch some of the blame, but you can point your finger at Krellan. But yea like Veo said, I would handle it in game one way or the other.

I'm not looking for everyone to solve this problem, I'm looking for advice on if I'm correct in my theory on HOW to solve it, if I'm right about the nature guarding time length, if my plan would work, or a better way to do it.

edit: Also looking for information on if plants actually can go extinct.

Nature Guard lasts just over 1 in-game month. It also costs 1p and 1 mistletoe per room guarded. Thus to guard all of Astral would take literally hundreds and hundreds of power/mistletoe every single day.

Someone needs to get their facts straight.

I -think- yes. Or at least they could before. I think sparkleberries went extinct once way back when and the admins replanted some or something because it was so early on.

Yes, they can go extinct if no one gives a damn in replanting or every mage demesned every room, killing all kinds of plants in them.

Seriously Genevieve, there's no skill that'll revive a plant that's been stripped from the room, and as I said there is a chance to kill all the plants if we flood or worse, demesne the room with Nature Guard up. We can't harvest with it up and we can't even replant if the herb has been uprooted for too long or placed in the rift.

They can't go extinct because a small number of them repop out of nothing on peak month. I think.

Krellan only hordes Capricorn and Taurus, and that's where all the berry currently is.

That ass guarded right in the middle of me harvesting, once. I'm fairly annoyed about this, too.

Also note that it would be much easier if mages wouldn't deforest the place all the time.

Thank you, this is the sort of information I'm looking for.

So, from what I'm gathering, the problem will eventually solve itself at peak month if the other herbalists are quick enough to harvest and replant and guard their own.

Guard does not do what you seem to think it does. If someone else guards it, Krellan will still be able to harvest.

So what exactly does it guard against that has people pissy?

Yeah, it only really screws cityfolk, bards, and warriors.

So nature guard only guards against non Commune people?

Non nature users. Forestal bards and warriors get nerfed too.

Ah, well, I'm glad I made this then to clear up some misconceptions I had. Thanks Nejii, Narsrim. Sounds like this is a non-issue after all.

And if it turns out to be not a non-issue after all, you might also try talking to the Moonhart Circle. We might decide that we don't want Mother's power being used that way, not to mention that it'd likely end up leaving very little mistletoe available for others. Though obviously I can't speak for the entire Circle right now. But yeah, we can't do anything about this stuff if we don't hear about it.

Yeah, roleplay's hard huh?