It's always confused me why the Guildmaster has control over guild credits, rather than the Administrator - they seem like more of an internal, day-to-day guild affair than anything to do with the city. At the very least, since they appear to be stored in a guild account rather than with any particular player, would it be possible to allow the Administrators to use the same credit transfer commands as the Guildmasters?

Ideally, and I know this would take probably more coding than it would be worth, I'd love to see the credit sales be more automated. The GM or Administrator could specify a price for each member, the number each member can buy per month/year/whatever, and the minimum amount of credits necessary to initiate a member credit sale. They could still manually transfer out credits, to sell them and raise money for the guild, but each member would be able to go to the bank and DEPOSIT xxx GOLD guild FOR CREDITS and receive their credits immediately.

What about times when the GM and/or GA want to use credits to reward people for things... like winning contests or really great service or something. If people can buy the credits whenever, it'd be really hard to keep enough available to do things like that.

I think letting GAs handle credit transactions as well as GMs is a good idea though.

Let the GM do -something- for the Guild. Yeesh.

Also, I'd like if the GA could help in this since many times one will go inactive randomly and its irritating that one part of the Guild just goes on a Stand-Still.

Or...just give the guild credits to the leaders, since as I understand it that was the original purpose of them.

I don't see any problem giving the GA control over credits as well, but it's a bit presumptuous to assume that they should all be sold, or even given out as prizes. It is my understanding that when they were originally implemented, they were intended to be payment for the leaders to use however they saw fit.

I have to agree, I've never understood why GA's can't transfer credits as well.

See... I kind of agree with this. I'd like for the folks who work for the guild to get a stipend of credits. I tested the waters on the idea and was shot down though.

I agree with the whole leadership thing. It's a bit of a kick in the morale to HONOURS a guild leader and see that they are at 45% your might...

I do agree with paying those who take up the position. They are in some cases giving up the time they could be doing other things.

Why limit it to just the GA and GM? Give the GA, GM and Champion the ability to transfer credits.

However, I must say that an inactive GM becomes a non issue if others can give out credits, and I think inactive leaders need to be replaced, not worked around.

I agree with both statements here. Champions get left off too often, in a lot of guilds their only job is to be a good fighter. I'd like to see that changed so that they are actually encouraged to take charge of training younger fighters (i.e. not just set up a bunch of help files and a system, then leave it), and that they take part in other guild-related jobs like credit transfers, events, novices, etc..

And the second...I don't think much more needs to be said. Leader is inactive? Get a new one.

Sorry, after what I just dealt with in Hartstone it was a huge mess just to find the leaders we have now. We had all three elections going at the same time, because for the longest time no one would step up to Jitwix (Who have been only showing up every little while for a short amount of time since voted in), Shaddai was deemed not active enough and Anaria wanted to step down.

Sometimes it really is this: No one wants the position.

The reason for that is because most of us don't really want to do that stuff Though I do train Celestines who ask, I like doing that.

Well, you'd prolly get more people wanting it if there was some kind of compensation. And yes, then you run the risk of people getting the position just to get the compensation - but how's that different from any job? And if they do a bad job at it, they'll replaced and lose that income so there's incentive to do a decent job at least. I'm all for each office of a guild getting some form of credit stipend for active service, from Undersecs and Protectors to Secs and Security and including the GA, GM and GC.

Now, I don't think ALL the credits a guild gets should go to this. Some should be available to sell and some to give away as the leaders see fit. The ratio of it decided by the leaders and adjustable as needed and what-not.

Then don't be champion

Personally, I don't want to see any merging of the roles. Give guild credits to GA or GM but not both. I don't want to see a situation where a guild can be run by just one of the two.

Giving credits to guild leaders is totally up to the guild.

The only reason I'd want to be able to have control over credits as the GA is to make things more convenient, but it's not relaly a huge problem most of the time, unless you are in a situation where the GM is inactive and no one is contesting, which shouldn't happen.

Compared to GA, GM has very little to actually do. Maybe the other communities have council meetings every few days to decide things, but in Seren at least, short of a major wars or something, we only really need to do anything once in a while, maybe once a week.

Why limit it to just paying guild leaders with credits? The city leader should get paid too!

Heh, anyways more on topic ... if the GM is inactive and credits aren't getting out, the correct solution to that is to replace the GM not give the GA powers to hand out credits as well.

I'm an evil double post.

Truth, though Ely is making changes.