influence runes

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Unknown2007-01-15 21:38:10
As the title says. If I have two charity runes would their effect be doubled? Or can only one per type per person be active? unsure.gif
Unknown2007-01-15 21:49:47
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 15 2007, 03:38 PM) 373712

As the title says. If I have two charity runes would their effect be doubled? Or can only one per type per person be active? unsure.gif


I don't actually know for sure (too cheap to test), but I would assume that only one of each type can be active, like weapon runes.
Soll2007-01-15 21:57:18
Probably just one is effective, as with most runes.
Unknown2007-01-15 22:00:35
Well I've never gotten my hands on any to really test it but I've heard the effect those runes have is kind of minimal.. hence my question if they might stack.
Daganev2007-01-15 23:26:15
I would not say that they are minimal.

Pre rune: charisma 19 guards took 9 hits to take out
Pre rune: charisma 14 guards took 11 hits to take out
Post Rune: Charsima 19 guards take 8 hits to take out
Post Rune: Charsima 14 guards take 8 hits to take out
Anarias2007-01-16 07:09:09
The first times I tested the runes I wasn't very thrilled with the benefits. After doing some number crunching I started to see that while no the benefits are not phenomenal they're still noticeable and would be worth getting. I think you may get what you pay for, i.e. an artifact costing only 100 credits.

Edit - As a side note I'd be more than willing to lend out my charity rune for testing but the only other person I know who has one is Richter and we both have our runes on crowns.
Unknown2007-01-16 07:33:16
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 16 2007, 12:26 AM) 373749

I would not say that they are minimal.

Pre rune: charisma 19 guards took 9 hits to take out
Pre rune: charisma 14 guards took 11 hits to take out
Post Rune: Charsima 19 guards take 8 hits to take out
Post Rune: Charsima 14 guards take 8 hits to take out


So would that imply that the effect of the rune scales? IE to someone with 14 charisma it is more useful than to someone with 19?
Anarias2007-01-16 09:49:39
Did some quick testing just now with the Ladies in the Etherwilde. Testing done without any other boosts to standard High Elfen Charisma and no equipment or abilities used to augment influencing.

With two influence runes it was an average of eight arguments to beat one Lady. 8 9 8 8 9 8 for exact numbers for each Lady tested.

With one influence rune it was again an average of eight arguments to beat one Lady. 8 9 8 8 8 8 for exact numbers for each Lady tested.

Without an influence rune it was an average of ten arguments to beat one Lady. 10 10 9 10 9 10 for exact numbers for each Lady tested.

Not the most extensive test but its a good general picture.
Unknown2007-01-16 14:04:43
Thank you! smile.gif
Daganev2007-01-16 16:39:59
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 15 2007, 11:33 PM) 373915

So would that imply that the effect of the rune scales? IE to someone with 14 charisma it is more useful than to someone with 19?


No, I do not think it scales, rather I think there is a cap at 8 hits just based on the way the math works.

If you can get to 8 hits withouts the rune, then you don't need the rune, if you can't get to 8 hits, then you need the rune....

Although now I wonder, if you could get less than 8 hits if you didn't alternate your attacking type. Meaning, could I get six or seven hits if I just used 2 of the 3 attacks.
Unknown2007-01-16 16:51:13
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Although now I wonder, if you could get less than 8 hits if you didn't alternate your attacking type. Meaning, could I get six or seven hits if I just used 2 of the 3 attacks.


How would that work? I thought that resistance built up a little after each round with a given attack, so cycling should always be faster, unless I'm confused...
Daganev2007-01-16 16:53:40
Lets say there is a limit on attacks that prevents an attack from doing more than 1/4th the health of the target on the first hit.

Then if you are strong enough, the decrease in a ability from attack to attack would be less than the difference of only being able to do a max of 1/4th damage tongue.gif

I didn't say it is that way, I just wondered if maybe its that way. I can't understand no matter how much your Charsima increases you can't get less than 8 attacks.


My 1/4th idea obviously is not correct because weaker mobs are killed in less than 8, its just an example.