Unknown2007-03-06 20:10:11
Please place all your comments about old english here. You people are cluttering up all the other threads with it!
Ayridion2007-03-06 20:15:14
Moved.
Callia2007-03-06 20:35:05
QUOTE
Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
5
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
10
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned,
geong in geardum, þone god sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat
15
þe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea,
wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf;
Beowulf wæs breme (blæd wide sprang),
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
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Swa sceal geong guma gode gewyrcean,
fromum feohgiftum on fæder bearme,
þæt hine on ylde eft gewunigen
wilgesiþas, þonne wig cume,
leode gelæsten; lofdædum sceal
25
in mægþa gehwære man geþeon.
Him ða Scyld gewat to gescæphwile
felahror feran on frean wære.
Hi hyne þa ætbæron to brimes faroðe,
swæse gesiþas, swa he selfa bæd,
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þenden wordum weold wine Scyldinga;
leof landfruma lange ahte.
þær æt hyðe stod hringedstefna,
isig ond utfus, æþelinges fær.
Aledon þa leofne þeoden,
35
beaga bryttan, on bearm scipes,
mærne be mæste. þær wæs madma fela
of feorwegum, frætwa, gelæded;
ne hyrde ic cymlicor ceol gegyrwan
hildewæpnum ond heaðowædum,
40
billum ond byrnum; him on bearme læg
madma mænigo, þa him mid scoldon
on flodes æht feor gewitan.
Nalæs hi hine læssan lacum teodan,
þeodgestreonum, þon þa dydon
45
þe hine æt frumsceafte forð onsendon
ænne ofer yðe umborwesende.
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
5
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syððan ærest wearð
feasceaft funden, he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,
oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra
10
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. þæt wæs god cyning!
ðæm eafera wæs æfter cenned,
geong in geardum, þone god sende
folce to frofre; fyrenðearfe ongeat
15
þe hie ær drugon aldorlease
lange hwile. Him þæs liffrea,
wuldres wealdend, woroldare forgeaf;
Beowulf wæs breme (blæd wide sprang),
Scyldes eafera Scedelandum in.
20
Swa sceal geong guma gode gewyrcean,
fromum feohgiftum on fæder bearme,
þæt hine on ylde eft gewunigen
wilgesiþas, þonne wig cume,
leode gelæsten; lofdædum sceal
25
in mægþa gehwære man geþeon.
Him ða Scyld gewat to gescæphwile
felahror feran on frean wære.
Hi hyne þa ætbæron to brimes faroðe,
swæse gesiþas, swa he selfa bæd,
30
þenden wordum weold wine Scyldinga;
leof landfruma lange ahte.
þær æt hyðe stod hringedstefna,
isig ond utfus, æþelinges fær.
Aledon þa leofne þeoden,
35
beaga bryttan, on bearm scipes,
mærne be mæste. þær wæs madma fela
of feorwegum, frætwa, gelæded;
ne hyrde ic cymlicor ceol gegyrwan
hildewæpnum ond heaðowædum,
40
billum ond byrnum; him on bearme læg
madma mænigo, þa him mid scoldon
on flodes æht feor gewitan.
Nalæs hi hine læssan lacum teodan,
þeodgestreonum, þon þa dydon
45
þe hine æt frumsceafte forð onsendon
ænne ofer yðe umborwesende.
I don't think Old English is what we are whining about
Daganev2007-03-06 20:44:03
Cool, thats how I spell!
Aiakon2007-03-06 23:45:51
Yay, Beowulf!
Callia2007-03-07 06:53:21
Its the only sample of Old English I have readily accessible, because the Green Knight is in middle english, as is Chaucer, so...
Unknown2007-03-07 07:16:29
Oh dear lord how I hated the works of Chaucer...
Beowulf...I'm sure I've read a translation or two.
Beowulf...I'm sure I've read a translation or two.
Aiakon2007-03-07 08:53:55
QUOTE(Quidgyboo @ Mar 7 2007, 07:16 AM) 388771
Oh dear lord how I hated the works of Chaucer...
Chaucer is hugely entertaining and funny. It's just a matter of getting good at reading it. You'll struggle painfully at the beginning.. and then suddenly find that you're really enjoying yourself.
Unknown2007-03-07 09:26:34
Oh I know, I chuckled a fair bit once I understood it...it was just an annoying struggle.
Arix2007-03-07 09:42:46
just a quick rant: people who think using the words doth, methinks, and thee, thy or thou constitutes roleplay need to be beaten severely for hours on end with the complete works of Shakespeare
Aiakon2007-03-07 10:47:52
QUOTE(Arix @ Mar 7 2007, 09:42 AM) 388804
just a quick rant: people who think using the words doth, methinks, and thee, thy or thou constitutes roleplay need to be beaten severely for hours on end with the complete works of Shakespeare
Up to a point, I agree with you. In every day speech, speaking like that is ridiculous... But sometimes, there is a need for a quasi-high/formal-style in Lusty - and you can get that by using archaisms.
It's entertainingly ironic, in any case. Back in Shakespeare's day, there were two forms of 'you'. 'Thou' and 'You' (more or less). Thou was the french equivalent of tu - it applied to one person and was used in a familiar manner. 'You' was for many, and like the French Vous was also a formal mode of address. But now, of course, it's backwards. And Thou (with its inflection -est e.g thou knowest) is used formally...
Arix2007-03-07 11:09:05
I'm not talking about just Lusternia, I've encountered it in regular RPG's as well, although at least there I can thwap them upside the head and tell them to knock it the off
Unknown2007-03-07 15:09:08
QUOTE(Arix @ Mar 7 2007, 03:42 AM) 388804
just a quick rant: people who think using the words doth, methinks, and thee, thy or thou constitutes roleplay need to be beaten severely for hours on end with the complete works of Shakespeare
We have a divine in Achaea who does that constantly. It's nervewrecking....
Genevieve2007-03-07 18:16:38
QUOTE(Arix @ Mar 7 2007, 06:09 AM) 388810
I'm not talking about just Lusternia, I've encountered it in regular RPG's as well, although at least there I can thwap them upside the head and tell them to knock it the off
Frog in Chrono Trigger, anyone?
edit: and I think you mean nerve WRACKing.
Daganev2007-03-07 18:34:24
QUOTE(Arix @ Mar 7 2007, 01:42 AM) 388804
just a quick rant: people who think using the words doth, methinks, and thee, thy or thou constitutes roleplay need to be beaten severely for hours on end with the complete works of Shakespeare
Thou doest protest to mucheth
The Ironic thing is, in my 15 years of mudding, I have never once come across a person who tried to use fancy english to roleplay.
Unknown2007-03-07 19:45:08
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Mar 7 2007, 07:16 PM) 388878
Frog in Chrono Trigger, anyone?
*ker-smack!*
Don't trash-talk at Frog. He's teh uber.
Callus2007-03-07 20:29:26
What do people have against Frog? Sure his old english is exaggerated (he wasn't even supposed to be like that in the original Jap. version!), but it fits him marvellously.
Anyways, I think using old english is cool on certain occasions... But in normal talk, it's just annoying.
Unlike Ixchilgal's multi-persona. Which stays cool at all times, IMO.
Anyways, I think using old english is cool on certain occasions... But in normal talk, it's just annoying.
Unlike Ixchilgal's multi-persona. Which stays cool at all times, IMO.
Unknown2007-03-08 02:48:10
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Mar 7 2007, 12:16 PM) 388878
Frog in Chrono Trigger, anyone?
edit: and I think you mean nerve WRACKing.
edit: and I think you mean nerve WRACKing.
Wracking, wrecking, either works.
Unknown2007-03-08 18:16:33
QUOTE(daganev @ Mar 7 2007, 06:34 PM) 388883
Thou doest protest to mucheth
The Ironic thing is, in my 15 years of mudding, I have never once come across a person who tried to use fancy english to roleplay.
The Ironic thing is, in my 15 years of mudding, I have never once come across a person who tried to use fancy english to roleplay.
<--Daganev.
And take a look at HELP ELDERLANGUAGE, people. nobody uses it, and I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it's there, all the same.