Rakor2007-03-20 01:02:31
Check out this awesome spar. Bards are pretty cool. Advice?
Oh yeah why have people stopped posting logs here? They were one of my favorite things about the forums. Also I didn't have robes yet, need to get some.
Oh yeah why have people stopped posting logs here? They were one of my favorite things about the forums. Also I didn't have robes yet, need to get some.
Unknown2007-03-20 01:32:47
Maybe you should try outrifting and eating pennyroyal more than once when you're afflicted with stupidity. I know nothing about anything else.
Shamarah2007-03-20 01:40:03
1. PARRY AND STANCE.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
Rakor2007-03-20 03:09:59
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Mar 19 2007, 08:40 PM) 391921
1. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
Yeah I was trying to stick it.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
Don't have soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
Yeah, especially since I have no skills that compliment tarot. Wanted to try it out though.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
Yeah I was trying to stick it.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
Don't have soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
Yeah, especially since I have no skills that compliment tarot. Wanted to try it out though.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
Yeah, forgot that, but inept Combat.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
Hoo boy, bards. Thanks for the advice.
Furien2007-03-20 03:14:26
I can't quite comment, being one of the few commune bards out there, and not using tarot. My offense is basically putting someone to sleep. Can't get much more simple than that! 
In my experience, Cacophony seem to heavily rely on Soulless, so you're going to face a lot of difficulty without it.
In my experience, Cacophony seem to heavily rely on Soulless, so you're going to face a lot of difficulty without it.
Nico2007-03-20 03:24:51
You really were relying too heavily on your tarot. It's not -that- great for bards, especially since cacophony can't really stick aeon. Cantors get recessional, which helps, but it's still tough.
Also, consider the target you're fighting. Vathael isn't very tanky. Use attraction and simply damage him out. Minor sxith + egospikes/manabarbs/achromatic aura and powerspikes is pretty powerful. Some people don't have the cures for the bard afflicts, so you don't even have to use octave. If they munch down horehound, use octave and keep him attracted, or at least lusted to empress back in.
Then, I'd also use hunger a lot more to your advantage. You can do nasty things when someone passes out from hunger, namely soulless/death song. It's really evil, and cacophony songs really seem to help speed hunger's effects along.
Also, consider the target you're fighting. Vathael isn't very tanky. Use attraction and simply damage him out. Minor sxith + egospikes/manabarbs/achromatic aura and powerspikes is pretty powerful. Some people don't have the cures for the bard afflicts, so you don't even have to use octave. If they munch down horehound, use octave and keep him attracted, or at least lusted to empress back in.
Then, I'd also use hunger a lot more to your advantage. You can do nasty things when someone passes out from hunger, namely soulless/death song. It's really evil, and cacophony songs really seem to help speed hunger's effects along.
Vathael2007-03-20 05:12:09
Yea, it was a good fight. I'm however surprised you didn't actually post the fight you won. That one you did stick the hunger well enough I was unconscious for most of the battle and had aeon stuck on me for quite some time. I need to trans fitness and change from highmagic to lowmagic to avoid some of the problems I was experiencing in the fights. Was fun though.
EDIT: And on a side note, the comment about me not being very tanky. The only time I couldn't tank what he was putting out was when I was unconscious or had aeon stuck.
EDIT: And on a side note, the comment about me not being very tanky. The only time I couldn't tank what he was putting out was when I was unconscious or had aeon stuck.
Rakor2007-03-20 06:27:51
Yeah, he can keep up with my damage even when I'm going minorsecond every time I can. The one I won wasn't as interesting. When you couldn't keep conscious from lack of food it was over. Hunger pains hurt.
Guys you realize I'm just going to keep posting these stupid bard fights until this forum becomes interesting again. So come on.
Guys you realize I'm just going to keep posting these stupid bard fights until this forum becomes interesting again. So come on.
Verithrax2007-03-20 06:32:41
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Mar 19 2007, 10:40 PM) 391921
1. PARRY AND STANCE.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
2. Don't bother with moon tarot, it sucks.
3. PARRY AND STANCE.
4. Don't bother with aeon as a cacophone, you can't do anything with it since you don't have access to anorexia.
5. For that matter, don't use offensive tarot as a cacophone except hangedman and soulless.
6. Don't use hyperactive, it's a waste of power for anyone except maybe a cantor.
7. PARRY AND STANCE.
8. Get greatrobes.
9. Cure deepwounds.
10. Get a healing scroll to help handle damage if you can't tank.
11. PARRY AND STANCE.
12. Try using healer tarot if you're dying. Or starleaper which I saw you used except you used it much too late.
PS. Parry and stance.
Ah, the wonders of Lusternia combat... where half your skills are worthless and warriors own you unless you spend hundreds of lessons in a weapon-related common skill that everyone except warriors have to learn.
Morik2007-03-20 07:31:54
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Mar 20 2007, 03:32 PM) 391955
Ah, the wonders of Lusternia combat... where half your skills are worthless and warriors own you unless you spend hundreds of lessons in a weapon-related common skill that everyone except warriors have to learn.
yes we do. we learn it to hit harder.
Tervic2007-03-20 08:47:36
If what I've heard is correct, Combat improves damage and wounding on Knighthood attacks. Untested, but it's what I hear.
*nudges the Mythbusters*
*nudges the Mythbusters*
Aiakon2007-03-20 08:56:43
By far the funniest part of that log for me is the Dark Carnival chat.
Needless to say, I don't agree. Combat clans are boring. That is why they never stay as combat clans. Pls leave Bellators as it is, kthx.
Needless to say, I don't agree. Combat clans are boring. That is why they never stay as combat clans. Pls leave Bellators as it is, kthx.
Shamarah2007-03-20 10:12:20
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Mar 20 2007, 02:32 AM) 391955
Ah, the wonders of Lusternia combat... where half your skills are worthless and warriors own you unless you spend hundreds of lessons in a weapon-related common skill that everyone except warriors have to learn.
To be fair, you need skills to fight most classes (parry to fight warriors, tumble to fight guardians, metawake to fight wiccans, climb to fight druids...)
Anyway, eww, what are you doing fighting warriors without shieldparry?
Rakor2007-03-20 13:38:57
Maybe in your crazed excitement you clicked on the title without reading it, I understand.
Nico2007-03-20 19:23:05
QUOTE(Vathael @ Mar 20 2007, 01:12 AM) 391948
EDIT: And on a side note, the comment about me not being very tanky. The only time I couldn't tank what he was putting out was when I was unconscious or had aeon stuck.
Well, honestly, you aren't. You have decent curing and defenses, but you're ranked in the 400s as far as experience. As well, I doubt you have tosha/truefavour/life going. So yes, you're not very tanky in comparison to some really tanky people out there, like myself, malicia, daevos, ixion, geb, etc...
When I try, I hit 8000 health surged with 111/113 fullplate and trans resilience. Whereas the tactic I described will never work on me, I think that for you, it has a better chance. It's much more effective than simply minorsecond.
EDIT: To clarify, the tactic I described allows you to hurt your opponent for 700+ ego, 700+ mana, and 1400+ health damage every 3 seconds if the effects stick. (based off of testing as a 10int bard against myself, note level 2 magic weakness, with a bonded instrument)
Ashteru2007-03-20 19:26:18
QUOTE(Nico @ Mar 20 2007, 08:23 PM) 392031
Well, honestly, you aren't. You have decent curing and defenses, but you're ranked in the 400s as far as experience. As well, I doubt you have tosha/truefavour/life going. So yes, you're not very tanky in comparison to some really tanky people out there, like myself, malicia, daevos, ixion, geb, etc...
When I try, I hit 8000 health surged with 111/113 fullplate and trans resilience. Whereas the tactic I described will never work on me, I think that for you, it has a better chance. It's much more effective than simply minorsecond.
When I try, I hit 8000 health surged with 111/113 fullplate and trans resilience. Whereas the tactic I described will never work on me, I think that for you, it has a better chance. It's much more effective than simply minorsecond.
That fullplate is runed though? O.o
Nico2007-03-20 19:56:47
Yeah, runed. Base stats 104/106, only took 6 reforgings too. I got lucky 
Ashteru2007-03-20 20:57:57
Damn sweet. Took me three hours to get one with 104/102. -.-
Vathael2007-03-20 22:30:16
and to think, I've only been playing this game for less than a month unlike the others stated.
